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Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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40%? I sincerely wish them the best of luck and I hope they get what is their due but this is probably good news for India, Mexico and China.

It's interesting to see workgroups that are harder to outsource, and the kind of contract renewals they are getting. Like airline pilots, for example...and not just forward pay increases, but retroactive pay raises for 2+ years as a lump sum, and many other perks and changes to work rules, higher reimbursement for various things, etc.

Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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40% over 4 years isn't as crazy (especially when you consider that they had some concessions back in '08). typical clickbait when you consider this is a high value for negotiation and they're likely looking for anywhere between 20-30% over 4 years when it's all said and done. barely above inflation YoY.

> they're likely looking for anywhere between 20-30% over 4 years when it's all said and done. TFA conveniently points out to you that 20% has been offered to them and was rejected.

TFA conveniently points out that the average offer between the three automakers is less than 20-30% :), and 20% is the low-end of 20-30% btw

Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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> From 1978 to 2021, CEO pay grew by 1,460%, adjusted for inflation, versus just 18.1% for the typical worker. Why has the supply of CEOs not kept up with the demand for them? Surely, with the improvement in education and in increase in MBA programs, there must be far more CEOs today than in 1978. Why has the ratio of CEOs to Companies fallen by 14x for their wages to rise this much? /s As many argue, wages are only…

Alternatively, as many argue, wages are not only set by supply and demand.

Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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> From 1978 to 2021, CEO pay grew by 1,460%, adjusted for inflation, versus just 18.1% for the typical worker. Why has the supply of CEOs not kept up with the demand for them? Surely, with the improvement in education and in increase in MBA programs, there must be far more CEOs today than in 1978. Why has the ratio of CEOs to Companies fallen by 14x for their wages to rise this much? /s As many argue, wages are only…

What if CEOs were underpaid in 1978?

Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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There is an equation with an equilibrium: CEO's pay rate = (some multiplier) * median salaried worker's pay rate OR CEO's pay rate = (some multiplier) * minimum salaried worker's pay rate We've been conditioned to think it's not fair somehow, but the discrepancy is just....engorgingly terrible. I'm not arguing for how this metric would be enforced, only that it would be a good one to have. Especially in a time when g…

It's also been suggested that Congressional salaries be a fixed multiple of minimum wage, and for similar reasons.

Honestly I think that would probably fix things a lot faster.

Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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40%? I sincerely wish them the best of luck and I hope they get what is their due but this is probably good news for India, Mexico and China.

So what, nothing prohibits the US and Europe from raising tariffs on industrial products. The pendulum of globalization is bound to swing backwards for a multitude of reasons.

cough WTO cough

Re: Striking auto workers want a 40% pay increase–the same rate their CEOs’ pay grew

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> From 1978 to 2021, CEO pay grew by 1,460%, adjusted for inflation, versus just 18.1% for the typical worker. Why has the supply of CEOs not kept up with the demand for them? Surely, with the improvement in education and in increase in MBA programs, there must be far more CEOs today than in 1978. Why has the ratio of CEOs to Companies fallen by 14x for their wages to rise this much? /s As many argue, wages are only…

the supply of prospective management people definitely has kept up. there are literally tens of thousands of MBAs graduating every year, to say nothing of managers at existing F500 companies. there are only so many large companies, and thus so many CEOs.

look at tiny barely profitable companies, the gap between median wage and CEO is sometimes less than 2X.

all these takes on CEO pay when the reality is simple - CEOs are paid a lot because they the cost of being wrong is more than their pay. this results in companies that have a lot of money competing, driving up the price. the end. it's the same reason lebron james is paid 10X more than NBA average.

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