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Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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Looks very similar to what we're doing at https://highlight.io. Would love to trade notes at some point.

One thing to consider with your messaging is that when you start speaking to large companies, they won't see you as a datadog alternative. They'll see you as a mix of sentry + fullstory + honeycomb.

Datadog originally found its success with its metrics products, and the larger the buyer of datadog gets, the more metrics-esque use case a company finds. The session replay, logging and other things are simply products that datadog tacks on.

That being said, this is clearly a large market (which is why we're working on it). I particularly like the tracing UI that y'all have and I'd love to chat with your team at some point. Good luck.

Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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This could be huge for healthcare companies like Metriport [1] - do you sign BAAs with customers for HIPAA compliance? [1] https://github.com/metriport/metriport

Definitely familiar with the compliance needs there - more than happy to chat further about BAAs and HIPAA compliance requirements with you guys. Always love partnering with others in the OSS space :)

Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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post #21

Looks very interesting, although a lot of the OpenTelemetry libraries are incomplete: https://opentelemetry.io/docs/instrumentation/ Especially Ruby, which is the one that I would be most interested in using.

The OpenTelemetry ecosystem is definitely still young depending on the language, but we have Ruby users onboard (typically using OpenTelemetry for the tracing portion, and piping logs via Heroku or something else via the regular Ruby logger).

Feel free to pop in on the Discord if you'd like to chat more/share your thoughts!

Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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Congrats on the launch. Perhaps I missed it, but what are the system requirements to run the self-hosted version? Seems decently heavy (Clickhouse, MongoDB, Redis, HyperDX services)? Is there a Helm chart to install into k8s?

Look forward to the syslog integration which says coming soon. I have a hobby project which uses systemd services for each of my Python apps and the path with least resistance is just ingest syslog (aware that I lose stack traces, session reply, etc).

Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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post #23

Looks very similar to what we're doing at https://highlight.io . Would love to trade notes at some point. One thing to consider with your messaging is that when you start speaking to large companies, they won't see you as a datadog alternative. They'll see you as a mix of sentry + fullstory + honeycomb. Datadog originally found its success with its metrics products, and the larger the buyer of datadog gets, the more…

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Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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Since this is MIT, someone should fork it and add SSO to the OSS version/remove the SSO tax. Looks like they're just using Passport for auth, shouldn't take much to enable the OAuth bits of it.

That's why this is MIT right, so folks can contribute stuff like this?

Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

#29

Wow, there is a lot here and what here is to a pretty impressive level of polish for how far along this is. The background of someone with a DX background comes through! I will be looking into this a lot more. Here are a few comments, notes, and questions: * I like the focus on DX (especially compared to other OSS solutions) in your messaging here, and I think your hero messaging tells that story, but it isn't reinfo…

Thank you, really appreciate the feedback and encouragement!

> It seems like clickhouse is obviously a big piece of the tech here, which is an obvious choice, but from my experience with high data rate ingest, especially logs, you can run into issues at larger scale. Is that something you expect to give options around in open source?

Scaling any system can be challenging - our experience so far is that Clickhouse is a fraction of the overhead of systems like Elasticsearch has previously demanded luckily. That being said, I think there's always going to be a combination of learnings we'd love to open source for operators that are self-hosting/managing Clickhouse, and tooling we use internally that is purpose-built for our specific setup and workloads.

> I saw what is in OSS vs cloud and I think it is a reasonable way to segment, especially multi-tenancy, but do you see the split always being more management/security features?

Our current release - we've open sourced the vast majority of our feature set, including I think some novel features like event patterns that typically are SaaS-only and that'll definitely be the way we want to continue to operate. Given the nature of observability - we feel comfortable continuing to keep pushing a fully-featured OSS version while having a monetizable SaaS that focuses on the fact that it's completely managed, rather than needing to gate heavily based on features.

> on OSS, I was surprised to see MIT license

We want to make observability accessible and we think AGPL will accomplish the opposite of that. While we need to make money at the end of the day - we believe that a well-positioned enterprise + cloud offering is better suited to pull in those that are willing to pay, rather than forcing it via a license. I also love the MIT license and use it whenever I can :)

> On that note, I am curious what your target persona and GTM plan is looking like?

I think for small teams, imo the options available are largely untantilizing, it ranges from narrow tools like Cloudwatch to enterprise-oriented tools like New Relic or Datadog. We're working hard to make it easier for those kinds of teams to adopt good monitoring and observability from day 1, without the traditional requirement of needing an observability expert or dedicated SRE to get it set up. (Admittedly, we still have a ways to improve today!) On the enterprise side, switching costs are definitely high, but most enterprises are highly decentralized in decision making, where I routinely hear F500s having a handful of observability tools in production at a given time! I'll say it's not as locked-in as it seems :)

Re: Show HN: HyperDX – open-source dev-friendly Datadog alternative

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Since this is MIT, someone should fork it and add SSO to the OSS version/remove the SSO tax. Looks like they're just using Passport for auth, shouldn't take much to enable the OAuth bits of it. That's why this is MIT right, so folks can contribute stuff like this?

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