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F-35 can’t be found after pilot ejected

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Re: F-35 can’t be found after pilot ejected

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An 80's movie dream is playing out for some rural kids, where they stumble upon a smouldering high-tech wreckage and as they explore it, men in suits pour out of black SUVs and talk to them in taciturn ways. Seriously though, these jets sound terribly overpriced for how unreliable they seem to be.

I'm no expert on aircraft procurement or government contracts (I'm an engineer who used to work on fighter jets) - that being said, it's my understanding that the F-35 is actually a very successful project, and a very affordable one at that. I haven't got any citations or evidence to present, I could be wrong about all of this, it's a topic I've got only casual knowledge about. A broad overview of my understanding of…

https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/01/f-35-cheaper-than-the-g...

Specific figures will differ depending on how exactly one calculates acquisition costs. These numbers differ depending on the acquiring country, the block numbers, etc. But as rule of thumb the F-35 cost is roughly 10 million USD cheaper than the much less capable Gripen. This is notable as the Gripen is being marketed as the cheaper alternative. The F-35 has much higher operational costs (mostly due to the costs of maintaining stealth coating), but here's the opinion of the Finish and Swiss governments on full life-cycle costs from the article:

> However, both the Swiss and Finnish authorities argued that the F-35 was the best cost/benefit investment, if its full life-cycle economics were taken into account.

Re: F-35 can’t be found after pilot ejected

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post #72

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We don't have children starving in schools

It's not pretty right now. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/03/1173535...

blanket free lunch is disgustingly wasteful and a terrible solution for needy children. It is like buying a new car whenever you have a flat tire.

I can feed my own kids, I don't need them picking up an extra slice of pizza every day for fun and throwing milk and plates and disposable utensils in the garbage. Ask any lunch worker about the additional garbage and waste it generates.

The correct solution is to remove the barriers stopping children from getting free lunch- stop requiring parents to sign up for it. If a lunch aide feels like a kid needs food, they should be able to sign them up without anyone having to know about it or consent to it. Let the schools give kids in need double lunches if they want them and/or something to take home with them. Double down on the kids in need, don't force it on everyone.

Re: F-35 can’t be found after pilot ejected

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We are looking for an F-35...You were not supposed to disclose the existance of the F-39 ;-)

After the development of the F-35, the idea that the US government could fund and develop a new fighter without the public knowing is somehow heartwarming!

Well, the F-117 was developed in complete secrecy. And, I'd like to add, in busget and on time. All that using a bunch of stuff coming from the F-15 and F-16 programs. My pet theory is, that those twonhad a ton of cost overruns regarding spares and such because avionics and engines for the F-117 had to be sourced somehow.

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It's really hard to track with active radar, which is why the first thing NATO does in a foreign country is bomb all TV and radio stations off the air. With passive methods it's no problem at all.

What do TV and radio stations have to do with active radar?

Nothing. That's the point. You don't need active radar with the right mix of broadcast stations and math tricks.

Re: F-35 can’t be found after pilot ejected

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This sounds too ridiculous to be true. I'd be more inclined to believe that it's a gambit to flush out an intelligence leak rather than an inability to find their own $160M plane.

You'd be surprised to learn then that the United States has lost several (6, last I knew) nuclear weapons over the decades.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220804-the-lost-nuclear...

Re: F-35 can’t be found after pilot ejected

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post #134

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It's really hard to track with active radar, which is why the first thing NATO does in a foreign country is bomb all TV and radio stations off the air. With passive methods it's no problem at all.

What do TV and radio stations have to do with active radar?

The other way around, it's easy to track these with passive radar which is why all radio emitters get bombed.
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