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Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

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You have to use a special "verbatim" search product from Google, it isn't the main search box anymore. Look under Advanced or something.

For now, this seems to work: https://www.google.com/advanced_search but, given the pace at which Google "improves" things, I don't have much hope that it will last.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#52

Kagi. Never have I been so happy to send someone $10 every month. When you become the customer, not the product, it’s amazing what can happen.

What happens if GOOG acquires Kagi?

I'm sure many folks, including me, would be willing to help Vlad organize a private acquisition if he suddenly had some pressing need to sell.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#53

Use Bing? I've found for code/error message snippets in particular Bing is often better, while Google will incorrectly guess I mean some related but different thing and serve the wrong results.

Bing's verbatim feature needs a + in front of the quotes, I believe; but then it will still screw up horribly on things like error codes (you want 1234, it'll give you 1235 and 1233.)

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#54

A HN comment recently recommended Yandex describing it as what Google search used to be. After seeing the post and trying Yandex it was absolutely right, it’s what Google search used to be. Now whenever I use Google and it’s just a list of ecommerce adds or content farms duplicating the same content without substance, I head to Yandex and get the type of results I used to get from Google.

Agree. Yandex seems to perform better. Heavy use of captcha's (mullvad vpn), but once through that, enjoy the service.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#55

A HN comment recently recommended Yandex describing it as what Google search used to be. After seeing the post and trying Yandex it was absolutely right, it’s what Google search used to be. Now whenever I use Google and it’s just a list of ecommerce adds or content farms duplicating the same content without substance, I head to Yandex and get the type of results I used to get from Google.

Guess it's because Yandex gets most of its ad revenue from searches in Russian. Search results for English queries are not so ad-cluttered. For searches in Russian language, Google is still better (shows less ads per page), but tends to prefer .ua websites. I guess their ML predicts European IP + Russian language as a proxy for someone from Ukraine now, which is pretty logical.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#56
> I used this quite frequently but since Google """"improved"""" it last year (there was a popular HN post complaining about this) it doesn't work anymore

That's not my experience? The quotes still seem to work for me? Do you have a specific example? And / or can you point to said HN post?

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#57
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the search results page, there's a "Tools" button in the upper-right that expands two dropdowns. Change "All results" to "Verbatim".

Wow, that's a good tip.

Here's a URL Link to the advanced search: https://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&fg=1

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#60

Kagi. Never have I been so happy to send someone $10 every month. When you become the customer, not the product, it’s amazing what can happen.

Weird question that I have that I'd love anyone who makes a Kagi account to trial after reading the parent comment to answer:

When you make your account, you're given the option to customize. When you do, you can pick things like color theme and how URLs are displayed. On the right hand side of the page there is a preview of what your Kagi searches will look like.

In my example, the demo Kagi search is Magic The Gathering. I play a lot of Magic The Gathering. I spend most of my time online searching for things related to MtG or brewing decks, second only to things related to software development.

I imagine it's coincidence. MtG is a pretty nerdy hobby and Kagi seems like a pretty nerdy product. However, it made me uncomfortable enough to ask:

Is that what it shows for everyone? Or is there some tracking going on already that is being demoed? It's almost certainly the former given the positioning of Kagi in the search market, but I'd like to be sure.

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