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Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

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post #14

You have to use a special "verbatim" search product from Google, it isn't the main search box anymore. Look under Advanced or something.

On the search results page, there's a "Tools" button in the upper-right that expands two dropdowns. Change "All results" to "Verbatim".

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

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post #21
post #13

When this happened to me, I found better results on https://duckduckgo.com/

Duck Duck Go has similar problems for me. It's also recently started sometimes ignoring the "-" when you try to exclude a word.

We put out a partial fix for that recently and a more complete fix is forthcoming.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

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post #22
post #14

You have to use a special "verbatim" search product from Google, it isn't the main search box anymore. Look under Advanced or something.

On the search results page, there's a "Tools" button in the upper-right that expands two dropdowns. Change "All results" to "Verbatim".

Wow, that's a good tip.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#26

Use Bing? I've found for code/error message snippets in particular Bing is often better, while Google will incorrectly guess I mean some related but different thing and serve the wrong results.

confirmed (although I use ecosia instead of bing directly). Now its like:

semantic search + realtime needs = google;

raw searches is ecosia(bing)

and most needs are covered via GPT4 actually. Error debugging + code snippets, general interest explanations, arguing things, evaluating things interactively. Basically everything I don't need hard facts of the last 2 years for.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

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post #13

When this happened to me, I found better results on https://duckduckgo.com/

I find better results on it in general. I use Google as a fallback but these days it happens perhaps once every couple months, and mostly I don't get anything out of it.

Yes. IMO DDG has been better for general questions for a long time.

Google remained better for programming questions for significantly longer (I speculate this may be because Google's own programmers used it, and complained when the results sucked :-)), but now it's not. Not really.

Like you, I still use Google as a long shot, but that's become quite rare.

I sometimes use Bing for Microsoft-specific questions, if DDG doesn't give me what I want. I have the sense that Bing covers Microsoft a little better than the others do. I have no real solid evidence for this, but it seems plausible on the surface.

Re: Ask HN: How to do literal web searches after Google destroyed the “ ” feature?

#30
post #13

When this happened to me, I found better results on https://duckduckgo.com/

I find better results on it in general. I use Google as a fallback but these days it happens perhaps once every couple months, and mostly I don't get anything out of it.

It depends on the usecase. If you're querying for something local like a restaurant or a store, google wins by orders of magnitude. If you're researching, duckduckgo is fine. Duckduckgo doesn't really compare to Kagi though.
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