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It’s sad to see a country just fade away. I hope they can convince their people to breed more or let in more immigrants while still maintaining their culture.
Japan of today is nothing like Japan of 100 years ago.
Every nation has already faded away multiple times.
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Yeah, the US and Canada are the only two first world countries not slated for long-term population decline due to immigration. Japan is going to have to be more welcoming of non-Japanese people.
None of the countries you mention have ages old strong own culture to preserve really (except first nations but for various reasons their culture is not US or Canada culture). So Japan's policy is not unreasonable. You can become a proper Japanese if you want to (are willing to culturally integrate), it's just that not many people do. Without it you'd be trading off death of country for death of culture. Contrast to…
japanese nationality is tied to ethnicity so much due to how homogenous the society is
It’s sad to see a country just fade away. I hope they can convince their people to breed more or let in more immigrants while still maintaining their culture.
Their culture is the reason that they're fading away. Perhaps it's time to change some parts in big ways in order to protect other parts.
When the boomer generation retires many countries will have to face similar problems and many western nations are already essentially governed by people that would/should be retired and can't find it in their hearts to give the levers of power to all the generations that came after them.
As a young person who will have to support an aging population I wondered half my life why the generations before me went just YOLO on the population pyramid thing as if it wasn't mathematically predictable what the outcome would be.
Then the pandemic hit and it turned out to be mathematically predictable as well and I got a display of just how irrelevant that fact was. It doesn't matter if the outcome is preventable. If you think it won't affect you and tou don't care about everybody else.
I always find it weird that people lament population decline. Japan still has a lot of people. Sure, that number is going down now, but you can’t look at the trend and extrapolate that number down to zero. And as the population declines, the number of resources per citizen increases. So people may be better off than before. The largest dangers to Japanese society lie in the transition period, where many elderly peopl…
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None of the countries you mention have ages old strong own culture to preserve really (except first nations but for various reasons their culture is not US or Canada culture). So Japan's policy is not unreasonable. You can become a proper Japanese if you want to (are willing to culturally integrate), it's just that not many people do. Without it you'd be trading off death of country for death of culture. Contrast to…
this isnt true at all, in practice. there’s so much onerous bureacracy, kafkaesque visa policies, and the fact that even naturalised individuals will still be othered. japanese nationality is tied to ethnicity so much due to how homogenous the society is
so legally for a foreigner the policy seems reasonable, just there is a lot of FUD spread by people who felt entitled to become Japanese with little effort and suffered reality check, see eg. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj855k5066o
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They are referring to: a) the fact that Japan's birthrate is below the number needed to sustain the current population b) the fact that Japan is ethnically homogenous (98.5% ethnically Japanese), and has very limited channels for immigration, meaning that japan, with the policies that exist today, will not be able to significantly mitigate the population decline by accepting immigrants. Japan takes a very different a…
I always find it weird that people lament population decline. Japan still has a lot of people. Sure, that number is going down now, but you can’t look at the trend and extrapolate that number down to zero. And as the population declines, the number of resources per citizen increases. So people may be better off than before. The largest dangers to Japanese society lie in the transition period, where many elderly peopl…
I always find it weird that people lament population decline. Japan still has a lot of people. Sure, that number is going down now, but you can’t look at the trend and extrapolate that number down to zero. And as the population declines, the number of resources per citizen increases. So people may be better off than before. The largest dangers to Japanese society lie in the transition period, where many elderly peopl…
If humanity can't figure out how to handle population decline, then it's doomed, full stop. There's only so much planet to go around; there's a finite limit somewhere. Rather than treating population decline as the issue, perhaps focusing on the actual issues that it exposes would be prudent. As it is now, we're just making every new generation into a layer of a global pyramid scheme.
If it is going to enter a state of perpetual decline, then it is doomed, full stop.
> There's only so much planet to go around; there's a finite limit somewhere.
Perhaps, but the existence of an asymptote to growth doesn't imply a need to ever switch to decline.
The normal shape of a resource constrained growth curve is logistic.