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Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#21

I agree with potatolicious and dmix. Also, what's the difference between "Bitbank", Paypal, Stripe, etc. What makes this idea unique?

Paypal, Stripe, Square etc all use credit cards which cost 2.x% plus 30 cents. Bitbank uses a digital currency with low or no fees. It's more competing with Visa/Mastercard than with Paypal, Stripe, etc. Those companies could become partners actually if they decided to support it as another payment method.

But from my POV (consumer), I get a 30 day float (assuming I pay my bills on time). Whats in it for me to not use a credit card?

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#23
I hate conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but there are a few basic principles I follow:

1) When people are making money off of something, they protect that method of making money, and evolve if necessary.

2) There are intricacies to our currency that might not seem immediately obvious. People depend on the discreet nature of physical currency - it controls the entire world of corruption (a lot of movies like to use diamonds as black market currency, but in reality its too difficult to rule out man-made diamonds these days, or to quickly evaluate the worth of a lot of diamonds). Corruption does not occur solely among gangsters, but all manner of people - from the most prolific bankers to the most "reputable" politicians. Digital currency can too easily be traced.

3) The government has made little effort to create its own digital currency, despite the fact that it would save tax payers billions, negating the need for the IRS, Mint, and reduce the need for the FBI and Secret Service (which monitors counterfeiting among other things)...and the corruption associated with physical currency. You might encounter more red tape and inertia than you anticipate -- if not now then when Visa lobbies its favorite candidate to create laws that work against you.

4) Third world countries are not a great target for digital currency IMHO, unless they have prevalent technology and understanding of it.

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#24
I know the OP and he's the "real deal." Hard-working, friendly, insightful, and smart. I'd definitely start a company with him if I hadn't already started one last year. So if you've been thinking about starting a startup but don't have a co-founder, shoot him an e-mail!

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#25
post #9

a little unfair to tack this response on to this particular post, but it reminds me (again) how much time people spend on the outward appearance of apps around alternative currency without addressing the part that's actually hard.. how do you give an alternative currency real value?

>how do you give an alternative currency real value?

I'd start by looking at how they implemented the Real in Brazil. They managed to convince an entire country to trust and use an, at the time, completely fictitious currency. There's an excellent article about it, which unfortunately I can't find.

The trick was to get people to start thinking of prices in terms of Reals, while continuing to use the original currency. If you can accomplish that, you've given your currency value.

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#27
post #4

Because bitcoin worked out so well. Have fun with that, dude.

There are many hard startup problems (autonomous robotics, craigslist competitors) which have had people crash upon the rocks in pursuit them. Does that automatically make them stupid to try? Bitcoin's failures don't mean all non-state issued digital currencies will fail.

Yes but he's actually using bitcoin, not trying to come up with another digital currency.

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#28
post #9

a little unfair to tack this response on to this particular post, but it reminds me (again) how much time people spend on the outward appearance of apps around alternative currency without addressing the part that's actually hard.. how do you give an alternative currency real value?

>how do you give an alternative currency real value? I'd start by looking at how they implemented the Real in Brazil. They managed to convince an entire country to trust and use an, at the time, completely fictitious currency. There's an excellent article about it, which unfortunately I can't find. The trick was to get people to start thinking of prices in terms of Reals, while continuing to use the original currency…

There's an excellent article about it, which unfortunately I can't find.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/10/04/130329523/how-fake...

HN Discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1757716

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#29

I hate conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but there are a few basic principles I follow: 1) When people are making money off of something, they protect that method of making money, and evolve if necessary. 2) There are intricacies to our currency that might not seem immediately obvious. People depend on the discreet nature of physical currency - it controls the entire world of corruption (a lot of movies li…

Without commenting on your first 3 points, I'd argue that a 3rd world country could potentially be an excellent place to gain mass adoption.

In the U.S. we have credit cards and fixed addresses to mail bills. There's probably a billion people who don't have this. There is absolutely an opportunity in 3rd world countries to leapfrog credit card systems, which for a variety of reasons don't work in these environments.

There's a mobile phone currency company in Kenya called MPesa which is currently processing 20% of the countries GDP! There's simply no way you could get that adoption in the U.S. that fast, since you'd have to displace VISA, Mastercard, and debit cards...no easy feat.

So OP is working on a hard problem, but its doable.

Re: Apply with me to YC in the next 3 days and change the world

#30

What dmix said. Why are you using a throwaway account? A co-founder relationship is very important, and my willingness to join you on this venture has less to do with your idea and more to do with you . Specifically: - Who are you, and what have you done? - What is your professional and personal experience, and what does it bring to the table in a general sense of running a startup, and in a specific sense, this idea…

It may be a throwaway because his employer doesn't yet know about this. I've had something I posted here (about maybe looking for a new job) come up at work. It actually led to a good conversation with my boss, but that isn't a preordained outcome.

Also, there's no possible way that amazon pays the same terms as normal customers, is there?

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