Comp.lang.c is now full of spam • Hacker News Board

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by fnfjfk » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

A lot of the spam is trying to sell really illegal drugs like LSD, I went to their website (won't link but obviously you can find it easily) and their checkout process for buying a bunch of LSD takes PayPal and Google Pay. They also have a $150 minimum, lol...

...is this "legit", besides the whole illegal drugs thing? Selling drugs with PayPal, on a .com? I remember people doing it with Bitcoin and Tor but this is very in the open. They do also take Bitcoin.

or is this entirely a scam? But if so why would they take PayPal which has buyer protection, although I don't know how PayPal responds to someone complaining "they scammed me and didn't send my illegal drugs".

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by shrubble » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 5:37 PM UTC

Google doesn't even properly handle emails sent by Google Groups subscribers to a Google Group! I have seen many cases where Gmail spam-tags a post to a group, when the list is closed for posting to any but subscribers...

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by TheOtherHobbes » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 5:37 PM UTC

There's something symbolic and fitting about one of the groups that helped build the Internet being eaten by the Internet.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by demondemidi » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 5:46 PM UTC

magicalhippo wrote: post #44

I really, really miss newsgroups. HN has some of the flavor of discussing technical stuff with experts and amateurs chiming in. But everything here is geared towards news, so the longer, deeper discussions are missing. Perhaps I'm just getting old though.

It’s not that much different. I was on Usenet from the late 80s till the web ate it. It was more like stack exchange and Reddit. But with far far fewer people involved. abpe was the best place for porn. Slash fiction was coming of age. Memes didn’t quite exist yet because posting images was not a thing. It the egos and attitudes were the same.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by SCSIfloppy » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 6:14 PM UTC

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Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by 2devnull » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 6:17 PM UTC

Deja news did so much better than google. It was the first and only lesson I needed about google. Good software is not the business they’re in.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by tlarkworthy » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 6:19 PM UTC

NelsonMinar wrote: post #36

Every year Google Groups still exists as a product I'm a little more astonished. It's been years and years since the company cared enough about it to put any effort into it. The data degrades every year, it gets spammed, the Usenet portion of it makes no sense vs. the mailing list portion. And yet it persists.

Google groups works fine for internal groups. It's used to group users for gsuite and Google cloud administration. Its an essential IAM building block.

Public groups is just one aspect google groups, probably not the most important use case.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by magicalhippo » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

demondemidi wrote: post #64

magicalhippo wrote: post #44

I really, really miss newsgroups. HN has some of the flavor of discussing technical stuff with experts and amateurs chiming in. But everything here is geared towards news, so the longer, deeper discussions are missing. Perhaps I'm just getting old though.

It’s not that much different. I was on Usenet from the late 80s till the web ate it. It was more like stack exchange and Reddit. But with far far fewer people involved. abpe was the best place for porn. Slash fiction was coming of age. Memes didn’t quite exist yet because posting images was not a thing. It the egos and attitudes were the same.

A big difference was that everyone got everything on a group, and it was much more async than current alternatives.

You could spend a day working on a reply, and people would get it next time they downloaded messages.

Everything now seems to focus on "the now", incentivizing fast replies and new content.

Though, as the other responder mentions, it certainly would struggle with "web scale" amount of participants.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by jmole » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 6:39 PM UTC

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #58

n0zmer wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Googler here. You are correct. Internally google groups are the easiest way to create adhoc project groups and support / announce lists. We have everything from music related lists, to stuff like vim/emacs user groups

How about doing customer service with it? Google: nah. Honestly I shouldn't even suggest that, it will probably get google groups closed in a whim.

You want something like a ticket/bug tracking system for customer support, not an email group

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by ptman » Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

jmole wrote: post #69

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about doing customer service with it? Google: nah. Honestly I shouldn't even suggest that, it will probably get google groups closed in a whim.

You want something like a ticket/bug tracking system for customer support, not an email group

https://support.google.com/a/users/answer/167430?hl=en