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DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by true_religion »

Dudester230602 wrote: post #9
paulusthe wrote: post #3

The magazine I worked for at the time was about to publish an article claiming that DeepMind had failed to comply with data protection regulations when accessing records from some 1.6 million patients to set up those collaborations—a claim later backed up by a government investigation. Suleyman couldn’t see why we would publish a story that was hostile to his company’s efforts to improve health care. As long as he co…

How did he manage to persuade investors to sign papers stating that the companies' mission is to do good and not make profit / "exit"?

If you are able to do evil and profit then that is a failure in law and not capitalism.

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by freeere »

paulusthe wrote: post #3

The magazine I worked for at the time was about to publish an article claiming that DeepMind had failed to comply with data protection regulations when accessing records from some 1.6 million patients to set up those collaborations—a claim later backed up by a government investigation. Suleyman couldn’t see why we would publish a story that was hostile to his company’s efforts to improve health care. As long as he co…

I would do the same.

Why?

Because I have a chronic issue and without mass data analysis no one will solve my issue.

You can dislike him but he faces the consequences and it's not necessary his job to appeal to everyone.

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

#13

Post by jfk13 »

intrasight wrote: post #4

Interactive AI is just faster generative AI. It's not a transition but a trend as with all computing. I do look forward to in about 10 years to be able to sit down in VR with any historical figure for a deep conversation.

> with any historical figure

Don't you mean "with a fictional representation of a historical figure"?

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

#14

Post by ethanbond »

sdenton4 wrote: post #10
paulusthe wrote: post #3

The magazine I worked for at the time was about to publish an article claiming that DeepMind had failed to comply with data protection regulations when accessing records from some 1.6 million patients to set up those collaborations—a claim later backed up by a government investigation. Suleyman couldn’t see why we would publish a story that was hostile to his company’s efforts to improve health care. As long as he co…

There is a real argument on the other side, though. We're dealing with technologies that they've when given access to loads of data. Health data is heavily regulated, and rightly so, but that regulation greatly hinders innovation. Hell medical data access problems are bad enough even when we aren't talking about innovation: simple problems in sharing data between different systems/providers leads to bad outcomes all…

It’s weird you mention fragmentation and regulation as the culprits when it’s pretty obviously consolidation (to Epic and Cerner) that led to this and it’s regulation (like 21st Century Cures Act) that’s actually undoing it… by requiring that consolidated players can’t disrupt fragmentation efforts (via FHIR).

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by paulusthe »

sdenton4 wrote: post #10
paulusthe wrote: post #3

The magazine I worked for at the time was about to publish an article claiming that DeepMind had failed to comply with data protection regulations when accessing records from some 1.6 million patients to set up those collaborations—a claim later backed up by a government investigation. Suleyman couldn’t see why we would publish a story that was hostile to his company’s efforts to improve health care. As long as he co…

There is a real argument on the other side, though. We're dealing with technologies that they've when given access to loads of data. Health data is heavily regulated, and rightly so, but that regulation greatly hinders innovation. Hell medical data access problems are bad enough even when we aren't talking about innovation: simple problems in sharing data between different systems/providers leads to bad outcomes all…

"regulations slow innovation" is not a valid reason to ignore any regulation one finds annoying.

That said, my problem isn't that he broke the rules. My problem is that, when confronted about having broken the rules, he lied about it then retreated into "why don't you believe the mission bro?" As if his solution is the only possible solution to the problem.

He's full of himself, doesn't care about rules, and gaslights those that criticize him. His messianic do-gooder-ism a bullshit marketing cover for him doing what he wants.

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by mab122 »

jfk13 wrote: post #13
intrasight wrote: post #4

Interactive AI is just faster generative AI. It's not a transition but a trend as with all computing. I do look forward to in about 10 years to be able to sit down in VR with any historical figure for a deep conversation.

> with any historical figure Don't you mean "with a fictional representation of a historical figure"?

at some point this distinction will lose its meaning

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by soxicywn »

sdenton4 wrote: post #10
paulusthe wrote: post #3

The magazine I worked for at the time was about to publish an article claiming that DeepMind had failed to comply with data protection regulations when accessing records from some 1.6 million patients to set up those collaborations—a claim later backed up by a government investigation. Suleyman couldn’t see why we would publish a story that was hostile to his company’s efforts to improve health care. As long as he co…

There is a real argument on the other side, though. We're dealing with technologies that they've when given access to loads of data. Health data is heavily regulated, and rightly so, but that regulation greatly hinders innovation. Hell medical data access problems are bad enough even when we aren't talking about innovation: simple problems in sharing data between different systems/providers leads to bad outcomes all…

I feel like part of the problem is that there’s a lot of difficulty in giving access to this kind of data for a specific purpose, and a specific purpose only (please correct me if I’m wrong). This is a problem that can be (and should be!) solved with time.

Advanced cryptographic techniques allow you (as the data owner) to restrict the function(s) you can compute on the data. In addition to that, they ensure that the only thing the parties on the other end would learn is the result of the function computed. But of course, we’re still a ways away from these techniques being practical, as the field of ML moves at a much higher pace.

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by skybrian »

I haven’t used Pi. Is it any good?

This is a big claim:

> Pi is live and you should try every possible attack. None of the jailbreaks, prompt hacks, or anything work against Pi. I’m not making a claim. It’s an objective fact.

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by baq »

paulusthe wrote: post #3

The magazine I worked for at the time was about to publish an article claiming that DeepMind had failed to comply with data protection regulations when accessing records from some 1.6 million patients to set up those collaborations—a claim later backed up by a government investigation. Suleyman couldn’t see why we would publish a story that was hostile to his company’s efforts to improve health care. As long as he co…

VC funding selects for messiahs so that’s what you get…

Re: DeepMind cofounder: Generative AI is just a phase. What’s next is interactive AI

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Post by TotalCrackpot »

true_religion wrote: post #11
Dudester230602 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did he manage to persuade investors to sign papers stating that the companies' mission is to do good and not make profit / "exit"?

If you are able to do evil and profit then that is a failure in law and not capitalism.

Oppression is inherent to capitalism, it requires to create and exploit a bunch of suffering persons without any good option to keep efficiency and to do the most undesirable work for very bad salary, even though it should be worth more given its undesirable.
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