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Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

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Post by delfinom »

b112 wrote: post #21
15457345234 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The costs would depend entirely on the userbase; usenet was in heavy use during the 1990-2000 era so the software must be incredibly lightweight by today's standards. I don't know what ongoing development has taken place wrt usenet server software. The clients will all be hopelessly outdated, I imagine WinVN will still run but you probably wouldn't enjoy the experience much. The big issue would be preventing the serv…

Sadly, I think AI will force a complete de-anonymization of the internet. No accounts without government ID, no connectivity without it either, open access points illegal, and so on. Governments and police would love this, and with AI, spam (as you elude to) is going to rise to a new level. And there are already issues, with most of the net's citizens, unable to detect fraudulent posts. Countries have already had civ…

Until you know, mass data breaches of said government ID from corporate systems and those AI bots now just use said ID

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

#32

Post by smrtinsert »

b112 wrote: post #21
15457345234 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The costs would depend entirely on the userbase; usenet was in heavy use during the 1990-2000 era so the software must be incredibly lightweight by today's standards. I don't know what ongoing development has taken place wrt usenet server software. The clients will all be hopelessly outdated, I imagine WinVN will still run but you probably wouldn't enjoy the experience much. The big issue would be preventing the serv…

Sadly, I think AI will force a complete de-anonymization of the internet. No accounts without government ID, no connectivity without it either, open access points illegal, and so on. Governments and police would love this, and with AI, spam (as you elude to) is going to rise to a new level. And there are already issues, with most of the net's citizens, unable to detect fraudulent posts. Countries have already had civ…

It doesn't have to be complete and it will probably thrive. Misinformation will take a nose dive compared to today since you can't have multiple anonymous accounts constantly being created and driving nonsense.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

#33

Post by b112 »

delfinom wrote: post #31
b112 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, I think AI will force a complete de-anonymization of the internet. No accounts without government ID, no connectivity without it either, open access points illegal, and so on. Governments and police would love this, and with AI, spam (as you elude to) is going to rise to a new level. And there are already issues, with most of the net's citizens, unable to detect fraudulent posts. Countries have already had civ…

Until you know, mass data breaches of said government ID from corporate systems and those AI bots now just use said ID

Your online ID, doesn't need to be your government ID. It does need to be validated though.

That said, this is the same problem you have with loads of other accounts. Be it banks, trading houses, or just compromised meta, X, or whatever accounts.

Still, my point wasn't whether or not it would work, but merely that it will happen. Governments will become more and more frustrated with a deluge of propaganda, which makes what we see today seem inconsequential. And I believe this will be their response.

And it is already true in many countries.

I did say it makes me sad. Not happy.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

#34

Post by jghn »

jk_i_am_a_robot wrote: post #28
baz00 wrote: post #2

Google stewardship in action. Can we even go back to Usenet without Google Groups?

"Can we even go back to Usenet without Google Groups?" No. Any group that doesn't have some kind of pre-post vetting idiom is going to have spam and abuse problems. This wasn't always the case and I can't pinpoint exactly when the change happened or what it was.

I'd suggest Canter & Siegel in 1994.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

#35

Post by NelsonMinar »

baz00 wrote: post #2

Google stewardship in action. Can we even go back to Usenet without Google Groups?

The "Usenet" you remember has been gone for years. Usenet to most people now means a place to download unlicensed videos with a remarkably byzantine and inefficient encoding and obfuscation system.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

#36

Post by NelsonMinar »

Every year Google Groups still exists as a product I'm a little more astonished. It's been years and years since the company cared enough about it to put any effort into it. The data degrades every year, it gets spammed, the Usenet portion of it makes no sense vs. the mailing list portion. And yet it persists.

Re: Comp.lang.c is now full of spam

#37

Post by jmclnx »

If using tin, just add this to file "~/.tin/filter". That turns off all posts from google-groups.

No blank lines, I added blank lines to avoid HN line wrap.

group=*

case=0

score=kill

msgid_last=**

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