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Carrefour puts ‘shrinkflation’ price warnings on food to shame brands

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Re: Carrefour puts ‘shrinkflation’ price warnings on food to shame brands

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Post by jeffbee »

thefurdrake wrote: post #455
bluedays wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lmao it’s Oakland. In many cases you can just walk a block to the next city. That doesn’t actually prove anything.

> Lmao it’s Oakland. In many cases you can just walk a block to the next city. That doesn’t actually prove anything. From the PLOS article: "There were no detectable changes in purchases of untaxed beverages or sweet snacks or purchases in border areas surrounding cities." From the post you replied to: "without countervailing increases of sales in neighboring markets without the tax." Why do you even bother replying?

Even geographically the assertion is nonsense. The fraction of Oakland that lies within walking distance of retail outlets that are not in Oakland is small. Only the far north and far south enjoy this situation.

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Post by lm28469 »

pkaye wrote: post #442

Of course the supermarket also does shrinkflation but I bet they never put the stickers there. > Consumer groups say “shrinkflation” is a widespread practice, which supermarkets like Carrefour are also guilty of in their private label products.

Most supermarkets in France operate at low single digit net margin on most products. If something goes up 20% it's very rarely on them

Re: Carrefour puts ‘shrinkflation’ price warnings on food to shame brands

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Post by gloria_mundi »

edouard-harris wrote: post #443

While the trend they're highlighting is absolutely real, it looks like the math in their first example isn't quite right: > For example, Carrefour said a bottle of sugar-free peach-flavored Lipton Ice Tea, produced by PepsiCo, shrank to 1.25 liters (0.33 gallons) from 1.5 liters (0.3 gallons), resulting in a 40% effective increase in the price per liter. Assuming the price per unit stayed the same (which is the impli…

They also got the conversion wrong: 1.5 liters is 0.4 gallons, not 0.3.

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Post by moritzwarhier »

huhtenberg wrote: post #446
edouard-harris wrote: post #443

While the trend they're highlighting is absolutely real, it looks like the math in their first example isn't quite right: > For example, Carrefour said a bottle of sugar-free peach-flavored Lipton Ice Tea, produced by PepsiCo, shrank to 1.25 liters (0.33 gallons) from 1.5 liters (0.3 gallons), resulting in a 40% effective increase in the price per liter. Assuming the price per unit stayed the same (which is the impli…

I peer-reviewed your nitpick and it is indeed a 20% increase.

Apperently you did not.

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Post by gruez »

jxramos wrote: post #427
satvikpendem wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Manufacturers can label it as 900 milliliters so they're not lying, but the bottle looks like it's a liter bottle so the customer doesn't really check the listed amount. They should check though, is my point.

I wish changes like this would also trigger a change in the barcode, that fundamentally by law a new unit size of the same product would be given a new number and that number would be on the receipt. If the number was tokenized like a VIN with sub strings representing volume that could be another way to catch this where the information is tied to data text rather than the physical product whose visuals can deceive wh…

Are people really going to OCR their receipts for years, hoping to catch an instance of "shrinkflation"?

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Post by moritzwarhier »

marsokod wrote: post #459
edouard-harris wrote: post #443

While the trend they're highlighting is absolutely real, it looks like the math in their first example isn't quite right: > For example, Carrefour said a bottle of sugar-free peach-flavored Lipton Ice Tea, produced by PepsiCo, shrank to 1.25 liters (0.33 gallons) from 1.5 liters (0.3 gallons), resulting in a 40% effective increase in the price per liter. Assuming the price per unit stayed the same (which is the impli…

I was able to find the details (source in French: https://photo.capital.fr/shrinkflation-voici-la-liste-des-pr... ) In addition to the volume reduction, the price also went up from 1.45€ to 1.63€. So the price per litre went from 0.97€/L to 1.36€/L. Much closer to the 40% figure.

Thanks for providing the only reply containing factual information.

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Post by charles_f »

marcosdumay wrote: post #230
charles_f wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, I won't applaud Putin if he switches to electric tanks. (not that Carrefour is Putin, but you get the point - a marginal fix from someone who is a nontrivial cause of a problem is not a triumph) This is a good idea, shame drives change, and it's good that customers get better information. But also, the customer rarely benefits from large monopolies leveraging their power. Somehow they're always the losing by…

That's hardly abuse of economical power. Wake me up if they decide to remove some label due to a negotiation. Otherwise, that's the slippery slope fallacy, that is false on practice about as often as it's true.

From an article on cnn:

> Carrefour CEO Alexandre Bompard, who also heads French retail industry lobby group FDC, has repeatedly said consumer goods companies are not cooperating in efforts to cut the price of thousands of staples despite a fall in the cost of raw materials.

> The shrinkflation warnings are in all French Carrefour stores, and will last until the targeted suppliers agree to price cuts, Bompais said.

100% just a negotiation tactic

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Post by IronWolve »

kirykl wrote: post #451

Notice this with app food delivery as well. Smaller portions than in restaurant, for the same order on delivery, with higher charge due to app fees

I noticed this at my favorite thai place also. Delivery orders are way smaller than when I picked it up on the way home. I have no idea how they knew the difference between pick up and delivery, but appears to be.

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Post by beebeepka »

kirykl wrote: post #451

Notice this with app food delivery as well. Smaller portions than in restaurant, for the same order on delivery, with higher charge due to app fees

These apps are just scamming young people and the restaurants.

Get a wife, love and treat her well, and she'll likely cook for you.

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