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Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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TLDR: Article starts by mentioning a bunch of current/past applications of AI to science, many of which are in the medical field where (the article fails to mention) no AI system has ever been shown to improve the quality or length of human life in a randomized clinical trial. It takes a very long time to then mention just 2 things that could "revolutionize" science: LLM style systems could help you find collaborator…

It's just the Economist. I wouldn't expect more from them.

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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As someone who probably puts way too much time into literature reviews, my big hope is that literature reviews at the beginning if a research project will be revolutionized. Things are re-discovered across adjacent fields of study all the time. There are also a bunch of times I've come across a paper when I was a year into a project, and wished that I'd had it at the beginning of the project.

Check out https://elicit.org/ I think it might be exactly what you are looking for.

Not the OP, but thanks for the suggestion! Looks like a cool tool!

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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Not sure the current generation of confidently-wrong language models will be of overall good use in summarizing literature, as suggested in the article. Sounds like the perfect disaster recipe for the "citogenesis" ((C) xkxcd) of spurious facts. Not that they won't be used like that (they probably already are), but that sounds like an expectable outcome, and a net negative to me. There is enough of a replication crisis with things that are stated in published papers already [0], we don't need another one with things that were never originally stated in any papers.

One idea that I find interesting is to combine LLMs with formal verification and theorem prover tools like Coq, Lean, etc. Any mistakes by the LLM should be detectable by the verification engine. Maybe this could be useful in automating the currently ongoing efforts of 're-proving' the existing body of mathematical knowledge with theorem provers ('ChatGPT, please take this paper and verify the proofs with Lean'). And who knows, maybe one day the machines will produce some interesting mathematics on their own. Would be curious if anyone has links to works in this direction, or blogs/content by mathematicians discussing this.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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Here's the heart of how they say it can be done > Two areas in particular look promising. The first is “literature-based discovery” (LBD), which involves analysing existing scientific literature, using ChatGPT-style language analysis, to look for new hypotheses, connections or ideas that humans may have missed. LBD is showing promise in identifying new experiments to try—and even suggesting potential research collabo…

> I have to question to the value of looking over existing papers given the current replication crises, is using an LLM to review existing papers just going to enable us to do more bad science faster?

It might be worse than that, not only might ChatGPT uncritically accept authors' claims or reduce the effort to produce low-quality research - given the current state of the art, there seems to be no guarantee that LLMs won't claim things about a paper that was never even said.

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Game developers should be hired to make an UI that allows scientists to accept “quests” and will show the public who accepted what and is collaborating with who on which problems with rankings. The reason to use game is to make it more engaging for everyone and also an incentive to go thru with it when in public

I'm now getting an idea for a dystopian cyberpunk novel about a world in which everyone is addicted to an awesome game that they think they are obsessed with that provides gift cards and credits that allow you to purchase real things, but it turns out it's all actually secretly controlled by a massive shadow government/corporation and everything everyone thinks they are doing in the "game" is actually having massive…

Just formalize it and make it a corporation. Perhaps companies should be designed explicitly as games these days.

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

#47

Schmidhuber literally says that his goal is to "create an automatic scientist and then retire."

We can already automate Schmidhuber. All he does is write fantastical reviews to grind an axe and harass speakers at conferences.

Character assassination is against site guidelines.

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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these upsides are a sirens song. it wont matter how advanced science is or whatever benefit you can imagine if human society is destroyed. the upsides will be pointless. destruction of human society is inevitable and intrinsic to artificial intelligence.

Got an argument for that conjecture?

AI existential risk isn’t “inevitable” in the same way that eg heat death of the universe is.

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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> Luminaries in the field such as Demis Hassabis and Yann LeCun believe that AI can turbocharge scientific progress and lead to a golden age of discovery. Could they be right?... Such claims are worth examining, and may provide a useful counterbalance to fears about large-scale unemployment and killer robots. But will we maintain control of the above-human-ability, autonomous AI systems these companies are racing to…

I'm pretty sure Yann LeCun at one point didn't really care if AIs replaced humans, but I think people got through to him that what happens after AIs take over would almost certainly look really boring to a hypothetical intelligent human observer, even assuming the AI system survives into the long term. In the set of possible AIs that kill all humans, I'd suggest that almost all of them are not properly aligned to their own long-term survival either.

Re: Artificial intelligence can revolutionise science

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post #45

these upsides are a sirens song. it wont matter how advanced science is or whatever benefit you can imagine if human society is destroyed. the upsides will be pointless. destruction of human society is inevitable and intrinsic to artificial intelligence.

Got an argument for that conjecture? AI existential risk isn’t “inevitable” in the same way that eg heat death of the universe is.

I think it's less popular that in was at one point, but lots of people (thousands, not that many people think much on the subject on an absolute level) essentially define the "win condition" for humanity as trillions of humans on hundreds of planets across many star systems, with suffering minimized as much as possible, in some people's conceptions even to the extent of using highly coercive methods against people who would prefer some level of suffering (e.g. effectively being sterilized and unable to have children unless living in an approved minimal suffering environment, in many conceptions ruling out any common lifestyle in any country on earth, including the US and Norway). In many of these people's conceptions, not reaching the "win condition" as soon as reasonably achievable is a moral wrong along the same lines as murdering multiple people would be to a standard person, so ASI (artificial super intelligence) must be developed as soon as possible to solve all the implementation and coordination problems required to reach the "win state". This viewpoint does not lead to the same decisions as standard AI risk mitigation theories, as those have much lower upsides to developing ASI, but share the same catastrophically massive downsides.
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