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Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by tombert »

Someone1234 wrote: post #23
whalesalad wrote: post #12

https://jellyfin.org/

I've given this a legitimate shot two times, both self-hosting and via a professional host and both times on I have massive streaming problems on a 1 gig connection. It, on paper, has competitive features to Plex but Plex streams almost as reliably as Netflix does.

I run Jellyfin on my home server, and this has been a problem for me as well. Even within my home network I'll have occasional stuttering while watching movies, despite the fact that I'm using a dedicated server with 128gb of RAM and 12 CPUs, with a 10 gigabit network card in a 10 gigabit switch, and I'll still get stuttering.

I've debated moving to Plex but I'm broadly against running proprietary software on a server (for reasons I cannot honestly articulate terribly well).

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by sgt »

whalesalad wrote: post #12

https://jellyfin.org/

A setup that I can now heartily recommend (after using it for 6 months) is Apple TV 4k and the Infuse media app[0]

It's able to find your movies and series on Samba shares (and probably other types of locations, too) and categorize, find subtitles, adjust audio and so on.

This assumes you've already got your media somewhere of course (like a file server on your LAN), but I bet 99% of the HN crowd has a home server anyway. And if you use torrents, you can dump the media there.

[0] https://firecore.com/infuse?utm_source=hn (you will need the Pro version which is about $15 a year, if I recall. Well worth it!)

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by Aeolun »

judge2020 wrote: post #5

> Got it. So they want to show the lawyers that they’re doing something to “combat piracy” even though they know it will do absolutely nothing and result in a bunch of pissed off legitimate customers. What would be a better solution, legitimately? Plex is ripe for lawsuits from media giants in every corner of the world, so even if their software isn’t illegal, they’re always going to have a target on their back and e…

> What would be a better solution, legitimately?

Incorporate in a country where companies/people cannot bring frivolous lawsuits? Seriously, it's pretty well established at this point that providing a video streaming service product is not illegal. Plex is not the one providing the content.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by iforgotpassword »

Someone1234 wrote: post #23
whalesalad wrote: post #12

https://jellyfin.org/

I've given this a legitimate shot two times, both self-hosting and via a professional host and both times on I have massive streaming problems on a 1 gig connection. It, on paper, has competitive features to Plex but Plex streams almost as reliably as Netflix does.

Hm, I'm occasionally using a friend's instance and it works just fine. Don't know exactly what kind of connection he has but definitely not a Gbit.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by sgt »

wkat4242 wrote: post #3

A service that exists to enable piracy is banning piracy? Good luck :P This is like when OnlyFans tried to ban porn. Just close up shop then. I mean let's be honest. Piracy is the raison d'etre for Plex just like porn is for OnlyFans.

Using Hetzner cloud for production services (Frankfurt DC), so definitely not anything to do with piracy.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by hattmall »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #8
judge2020 wrote: post #5

> Got it. So they want to show the lawyers that they’re doing something to “combat piracy” even though they know it will do absolutely nothing and result in a bunch of pissed off legitimate customers. What would be a better solution, legitimately? Plex is ripe for lawsuits from media giants in every corner of the world, so even if their software isn’t illegal, they’re always going to have a target on their back and e…

Are there any new efforts to build an open source plex alternative? I know about Kodi, but it has its own glaring issues.

When I used to use Plex and it started getting shutdown the hosts always switched to Emby. I have had far more success with Kodi though since the last like 4 years. The real plex alternative to me would be IPTV services that all seem to use Xcodes and have huge VOD libraries. But Kodi + Debrid Services has been great.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by freedomben »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #8
judge2020 wrote: post #5

> Got it. So they want to show the lawyers that they’re doing something to “combat piracy” even though they know it will do absolutely nothing and result in a bunch of pissed off legitimate customers. What would be a better solution, legitimately? Plex is ripe for lawsuits from media giants in every corner of the world, so even if their software isn’t illegal, they’re always going to have a target on their back and e…

Are there any new efforts to build an open source plex alternative? I know about Kodi, but it has its own glaring issues.

Perfectly set up the plug for Jellyfin!

I waited way longer than I should have to migrate. In many cases you don't even need to change anything, just mount your media into jellyfin and it will read everything. Give it time to build out a cache of course. I've been way, way happier with Jellyfin than I was with Plex.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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Post by hotheadhacker »

judge2020 wrote: post #5

> Got it. So they want to show the lawyers that they’re doing something to “combat piracy” even though they know it will do absolutely nothing and result in a bunch of pissed off legitimate customers. What would be a better solution, legitimately? Plex is ripe for lawsuits from media giants in every corner of the world, so even if their software isn’t illegal, they’re always going to have a target on their back and e…

It's like you're making YouTube responsible for any leaked movies? It's always the user who does it. Plex is just a platform.
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