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Re: MenuetOS

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post #27

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If I'm not mistaken, both are written in FASM (Flat Assembler). And unfortunately FASM won't run in recent MacOSes because it's a 32-bit app. No problem with Windows/Linux, though.

You can run 32-bit Windows tools in macOS with Wine.

I thought that Wine only works up to macOS 10.14

Re: MenuetOS

#42
post #37

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If you truly want focused you don't even need a window manager, you aren't even forced to run x11 or wayland but if so just put your favorite text editor desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions is enough.

If you really, really want focused you can just drop everything and replace init with your editor http://informatimago.free.fr/i/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linu...

you'll be distracted by your eternally changing .emacs configuration file :-)

Re: MenuetOS

#43
post #37

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If you truly want focused you don't even need a window manager, you aren't even forced to run x11 or wayland but if so just put your favorite text editor desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions is enough.

If you really, really want focused you can just drop everything and replace init with your editor http://informatimago.free.fr/i/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linu...

Would be a good application of a Grub menu option:

a) Boot with all bells & whistles. Or b) Boot straight into editor & type away.

Hell you could even use a customized kernel for that, to strip out all the boot-time consuming features that editor doesn't need.

Re: MenuetOS

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You can run 32-bit Windows tools in macOS with Wine.

I thought that Wine only works up to macOS 10.14

I'm on Monterey 12.6.9, and confirm can run the latest FASM. Current problem is how to configure the include path so I can build programs.

On Windows it's very easy: check "Environment Variables", create an "INCLUDE" variable (if not exist), then set "C:\FASM\INCLUDE", for example.

Re: MenuetOS

#45
post #9

What are boot times like? I see a lot of text-editing environments geared towards "distraction-free, focused editing" but not a lot of innovation on an OS focused on the same experience. I would like to see such a "writing OS" that boots to a text editor in less than a second. Maybe this OS is a candidate?

It was said to boot in 5s twenty years ago... The hardware compatibility list shows a promising number of machines ( http://www.menuetos.net/hwc.txt ). If you have a spare one, you could try and report. There is a chance that you will achieve a very fast boot time. -- AROS (Amiga) could reboot in ~7s, ~15yrs ago. And you can do more than you can with MenuetOS. Again, today you will probably break that record. https:/…

I’m pretty sure that 5s time 20 years ago was on a 1.44MB floppy, too. A real floppy! Not something emulated.

Re: MenuetOS

#46
post #9

What are boot times like? I see a lot of text-editing environments geared towards "distraction-free, focused editing" but not a lot of innovation on an OS focused on the same experience. I would like to see such a "writing OS" that boots to a text editor in less than a second. Maybe this OS is a candidate?

It was said to boot in 5s twenty years ago... The hardware compatibility list shows a promising number of machines ( http://www.menuetos.net/hwc.txt ). If you have a spare one, you could try and report. There is a chance that you will achieve a very fast boot time. -- AROS (Amiga) could reboot in ~7s, ~15yrs ago. And you can do more than you can with MenuetOS. Again, today you will probably break that record. https:/…

> You can see here a recent AROS booting in 3s (it is not clear if it is bare metal though):

The virtualbox window is pretty clear to me :D

Re: MenuetOS

#47
post #9

What are boot times like? I see a lot of text-editing environments geared towards "distraction-free, focused editing" but not a lot of innovation on an OS focused on the same experience. I would like to see such a "writing OS" that boots to a text editor in less than a second. Maybe this OS is a candidate?

It was said to boot in 5s twenty years ago... The hardware compatibility list shows a promising number of machines ( http://www.menuetos.net/hwc.txt ). If you have a spare one, you could try and report. There is a chance that you will achieve a very fast boot time. -- AROS (Amiga) could reboot in ~7s, ~15yrs ago. And you can do more than you can with MenuetOS. Again, today you will probably break that record. https:/…

I used to have a setup where I'd boot the Linux-hosted version of AROS (so not nearly the same as booting from scratch certainly) straight into FrexxEd, and it started AROS + FrexxEd faster than my Emacs install started on the same box...

Re: MenuetOS

#48
post #23

What are boot times like? I see a lot of text-editing environments geared towards "distraction-free, focused editing" but not a lot of innovation on an OS focused on the same experience. I would like to see such a "writing OS" that boots to a text editor in less than a second. Maybe this OS is a candidate?

You don't need a new OS for that. You can do that as a Linux distribution just fine.

Maybe with heavy hacking, but not ready-made, at least that I’ve found. Certainly don’t seem to be any distros (in the casual searching I do periodically) that focus on 1-second boot times out of the box.

Re: MenuetOS

#49
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was said to boot in 5s twenty years ago... The hardware compatibility list shows a promising number of machines ( http://www.menuetos.net/hwc.txt ). If you have a spare one, you could try and report. There is a chance that you will achieve a very fast boot time. -- AROS (Amiga) could reboot in ~7s, ~15yrs ago. And you can do more than you can with MenuetOS. Again, today you will probably break that record. https:/…

> You can see here a recent AROS booting in 3s (it is not clear if it is bare metal though): The virtualbox window is pretty clear to me :D

Youngsters, bragging about their good eyes... ;)

Anyway: I thought I have here a laptop I have to initialize, maybe I will install IcarOS on it as soon as I will have the time. So, we will see how it behaves on bare metal.

Re: MenuetOS

#50
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was said to boot in 5s twenty years ago... The hardware compatibility list shows a promising number of machines ( http://www.menuetos.net/hwc.txt ). If you have a spare one, you could try and report. There is a chance that you will achieve a very fast boot time. -- AROS (Amiga) could reboot in ~7s, ~15yrs ago. And you can do more than you can with MenuetOS. Again, today you will probably break that record. https:/…

Last time I ran it, Lakka (a Linux disto for Retroach emulation appliances) booted in 5s or less on an RPi2, to a usable graphical menu, complete with particle effects or whatever if you have that stuff enabled.

on a 1.44MB floppy?
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