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‘Sea is constantly dumping bodies’: fears Libya flood death toll may hit 20k
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#92If you're looking to read more into the basics of this disaster, I was impressed by the clarity of these Washington Post graphics: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/12/deadly-libya...
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "EU and America" didn't assassinate Gaddafi. Right. "We came, we saw, he died! [lol]" Gaddafi was "assassinated" because there was a full-on civil war and the EU and America bombed the massive convoy he had sent to crush the rebellion in Benghazi and enforced a no-fly zone otherwise Gaddafi's planes would obliterate the rebel forces and the civilians living in those cities This is just revisionist nonsense. There…
I already see there is no point in continue this conversation. I notice your standards for US/EU intervention are very very high and basically nobody should ever being killed. Why don't you apply the same reasoning to Gaddafi's regime and Syria/Russia/Al-Qaeda? You seem to have every problem existing in the Universe when the evil West does something ( and also a problem when it doesn't, also a problem that the West e…
> but I also recognize the context of it all.
The context is that Sarkozy didn't want Gaddafi muscling on the Franc's domination of Africa's economy.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659
https://www.vice.com/en/article/gy9d49/libyan-oil-gold-and-q...
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "EU and America" didn't assassinate Gaddafi. Right. "We came, we saw, he died! [lol]" Gaddafi was "assassinated" because there was a full-on civil war and the EU and America bombed the massive convoy he had sent to crush the rebellion in Benghazi and enforced a no-fly zone otherwise Gaddafi's planes would obliterate the rebel forces and the civilians living in those cities This is just revisionist nonsense. There…
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> This is naked Russian propaganda masquerading as enlightened discourse.
OSCE via Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/osce-reports-surge-numb...
Unless Reuters is "naked Russian propaganda" now, there was definitely an uptick in kinetic activity in the Donbas, with most of it falling on the Separatist side of the line of control.
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> intervention We used to call this war. Is Russia just ‘intervening’ in Ukraine right now?
We didn’t use to call it war, so you’re wrong about that. We used the term “intervention” to describe limited military action. Countries throughout history have conducted interventions as opposed to full-scale war. Russia’s assault on Ukraine isn’t an intervention and is instead a war and we know this because of the size and scale of the operation but also the intentions of the operation, which, are to take over the…
cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "EU and America" didn't assassinate Gaddafi. Right. "We came, we saw, he died! [lol]" Gaddafi was "assassinated" because there was a full-on civil war and the EU and America bombed the massive convoy he had sent to crush the rebellion in Benghazi and enforced a no-fly zone otherwise Gaddafi's planes would obliterate the rebel forces and the civilians living in those cities This is just revisionist nonsense. There…
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> Then stop toppling governments. Not necessarily. A total prohibition there would give free reign to tyrants to oppress their own people or even invade their insufficiently-allied neighbours without fear of consequence. The second world war is widely regarded as a just conflict (on the balance), even if it did topple the governments of the Axis powers. However, my thinking above raises cost-estimation from a practic…
> give free reign to tyrants to oppress their own people Come on, North Korean regime exists for 70 years now and it is relatively stable. You're not going to heal the world. China will continue to do whatever it wants in Tibet and Cental Asia. The only thing you get by doing interventions against the regimes you do not like, is encouraging other countries to do interventions against the regimes that they do not like…
> You can nudge tyrants into becoming milder and perhaps transitioning power sometimes in the future
That's incredibly rare to happen. Most dictators leave office by death or being forced into exile.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
We didn’t use to call it war, so you’re wrong about that. We used the term “intervention” to describe limited military action. Countries throughout history have conducted interventions as opposed to full-scale war. Russia’s assault on Ukraine isn’t an intervention and is instead a war and we know this because of the size and scale of the operation but also the intentions of the operation, which, are to take over the…
Sounds like a bunch of wars we were engaged in the ME for no reason.
Don't you mean interventions? ;-)