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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Especially when you consider that it was stopped 3 years ago.

Except it didn’t. My daughter in the US created an account and it didn’t require any family pairing or verification that the adult paired with her was her parent

These are EU laws that only pertain to the EU. US has different laws.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Especially when you consider that it was stopped 3 years ago.

Your honour, clearly you cannot convict my client since the crime was committed years ago. /s You don't work for TikTok by amy chance?

I definitely don't work for TikTok. I don't know the details. But the fine is way too much regardless.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Interesting, right? It's like they can make so much money from tracking people in other countries/jurisdictions that paying a fine to the EU once in a while is just part of the payroll.

Truly, I'm starting to think they think of it as opportunity cost then an actually fine.

You'd be correct. Anyone that actually has to deal with regulators quickly understands how easy it is to game the regulations if you're someone of Meta's stature.

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GDPR doesn't go far enough and I think courts need to hand out significantly more fines. Yes, that fine is a lot. It's supposed to be high. That's the only way that fines work. If it doesn't hurt a company's bottom line, they don't learn.

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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This is pretty interesting time with the social media / data companies. Will this be the new normal? Where, like clock work, another fine gets announced? Or will we transition through this period into one where they know how to, and also do, comply and the regulations don't change a ton?

These are serious, proportionate fines that meaningfully affect the bottom line. These companies are demonstrably making big changes in order to comply. They have been testing out the boundaries and seeing how close to the wind they can sail, but I think that's coming to an end now that they're seeing the impact of the new approach to enforcement. The clearest sign for me was Meta's decision to delay the launch of Th…

> Of course that creates the possibility of a two-tier internet where EU customers simply don't get access to products

this has already happened. google’s bard took it’s time to launch in europe.

the young kid in me that always thought we finally have a piece of tech that is beyond what politicians can control, that transcend borders and nationalities is saddened. but it is what it is, and without some breakthroughs (a system that cannot be controlled, censored etc by design) i don’t think there’s going back.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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> we made changes to well before the investigation even began Tiktok was not compliant before 2021. Being compliant in 2022 doesn't magically end an investigation or sentence.

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> These fines are insane. Especially for a company who stopped it then a few years.

GDPR has been around since 2016, 5 years is a long enough period to comply to regulations (as you're complaining about 2021), even more given the size of these companies. They didn't comply, they get fined, as an EU citizen I appreciate that they have teeth to subjugate even behemoth corporations.

> But GDPR, Digital Markets Act, etc are f** insane and causing huge problems.

Why do you think they are fucking insane and causing huge problems? As an individual I'm very, very glad these regulations exist and are being enforced, corporations won't change behaviour without massive penalties to these practices, so punish them until they behave decently, that's the only way.

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Ok, in this one case, it's not that vague. But GDPR in general is extremely vague. Digital Markets Act, extremely vague.

I hope you are PR at TikTok, and not legal.

I have no relations with TikTok. I am in furious at the EU politicians, and laws in general in the West. I am pro-Western but the laws are ruining us.

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GDPR doesn't go far enough and I think courts need to hand out significantly more fines. Yes, that fine is a lot. It's supposed to be high. That's the only way that fines work. If it doesn't hurt a company's bottom line, they don't learn.

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This is a false analogy. Corporations are not people, corporations have massive legal teams to go through every single piece of legislation that might affect them, if they break the law you should consider it's willingly given their resources.

They break the law once, get a small fine, they break it again and the fine increases, and keeps increasing until they follow the laws. What is the other option? You can't jail a corporation.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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This is a good start, but I'm going to be very curious to see if EU data law ever starts getting enforced against european companies at scale, as opposed to international companies.

It does get enforced against European companies, they just don't make HN headlines because they're not big-tech so nobody here would have heard of them.

Also EU companies tend to be more mindful and take data protection very seriously, even before GDPR was a thing, so finding gross offenders is a rare occurrence anyway.

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