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TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by personomas »

Y_Y wrote: post #24
personomas wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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oppress /əˈprɛs/ verb keep (someone) in subjection and hardship, especially by the unjust exercise of authority. I can't agree that TikTok or other recipients of such fingers could yet be considered to be in "subjection and hardship". Nor would I consider the fines so far issued to be particularly unjust.

Large corporations are definitely being subject to *unjust* exercise of authority. "Hardship" on a corporation doesn't really apply at the scale of very large corporations because the "hardship" is spread out among the many, many shareholders and stakeholders of the successful company; of course, it's not to be seen - it's a relatively successfully company being attacked, in comparison to non-successful companies not being attacked, so hardship isn't to be seen - but the unjustment is still completely there.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by skilled »

mchanson wrote: post #10

This is pretty interesting time with the social media / data companies. Will this be the new normal? Where, like clock work, another fine gets announced? Or will we transition through this period into one where they know how to, and also do, comply and the regulations don't change a ton?

Interesting, right? It's like they can make so much money from tracking people in other countries/jurisdictions that paying a fine to the EU once in a while is just part of the payroll.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by orwin »

personomas wrote: post #27
hef19898 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, protecting private data online, as little as the EU does, is oppression... Oppression of whom?

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The law is from 2018. And described exactly what was forbidden for underage children privacy. The fact that Ticktock didn't comply until 2021 is their own fault.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

bman_kg wrote: post #23

Will that fine impact tiktok or there wont be any change? If tiktok wont change its practice, then it should be fined again within set period/deadline

As I understand it, Tiktok changed their practices a few years ago. This fine is just for what their practices were before that, and the prosecution just took a few years to resolve.

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Post by martin_a »

jncfhnb wrote: post #19
lakomen wrote: post #13

I was wondering, I've recently picked up Tiktok and on the live streams, despite it saying that you need 1000 followers and be 18 years old, I saw so many kids, live streaming. I was wondering why they didn't enforce their own rules. I'm guessing, too large amount of streamers, but even if you had only one dedicated person, you'd certainly find enough teens or children live streaming. So this is quite the timely ruli…

In one case you’re seeing a topless woman on the beach In the other case you have anonymous strangers rewarding children for edging closer to sexual performances

YouTube Shorts are also full of underage kids talking about their life, dancing and whatnot. Does not feel right to me, but I guess it is for YouTube.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by malermeister »

skilled wrote: post #32
mchanson wrote: post #10

This is pretty interesting time with the social media / data companies. Will this be the new normal? Where, like clock work, another fine gets announced? Or will we transition through this period into one where they know how to, and also do, comply and the regulations don't change a ton?

Interesting, right? It's like they can make so much money from tracking people in other countries/jurisdictions that paying a fine to the EU once in a while is just part of the payroll.

I think if that's the case, the fines will have to be increased until we reach a point where they succeed at their task of disincentivizing this behavior.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by orwin »

bman_kg wrote: post #23

Will that fine impact tiktok or there wont be any change? If tiktok wont change its practice, then it should be fined again within set period/deadline

They changed their practice in 2021, after 3 years. The fine is for the 2018-2021 infraction over all of the EU.

Re: TikTok fined €345M for breaking EU data law on children’s accounts

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Post by hwillis »

bman_kg wrote: post #23

Will that fine impact tiktok or there wont be any change? If tiktok wont change its practice, then it should be fined again within set period/deadline

> TikTok said the investigation looked at the company’s privacy setup between 31 July and 31 December 2020 and said it had addressed the problems raised by the inquiry. All existing and new TikTok accounts for 13- to 15-year-olds have been set to private – meaning only people approved by the user can view their content – by default since 2021.
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