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Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Re: Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Post by sneak »

runako wrote: post #9

What does "after work" mean when you are expected to respond to email & Slack/Teams after you leave the office? The tradeoff to being always available to work is there's no "after work" time anymore; jobs have already claimed all the waking hours.

If you're not being paid an hourly rate x24 each day to be on call, turn off notifications for these apps when you aren't working.

It's a matter of setting boundaries. If you do work whilst not getting paid, the beneficiary is not going to correct your error. The only way you get them to pay for 24 hour availability is by not working 24 hours each day for free.

Re: Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Post by Gigachad »

nine_zeros wrote: post #4

Why the fuck would anyone schmooze to a boss/company who can fire you at anytime? At-will employment cuts both ways.

Not so much the boss, but I like my coworkers and enjoy an occasional night out with them. This might shock HN but not everyone despises their job and not everyone hates the people they work with.

Company occasionally runs an optional dinner/entertainment night with food and drinks paid for. And I'm happy to participate.

Re: Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Post by esafak »

richev wrote: post #7
twobitshifter wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Helps build trust and friendships, and understand people at a level beyond their job.

I somehow agree with both of these points, but am not sure I understand how that can be.

You can compartmentalize your personal and professional personas. Also, you should be doing all that trust building on the clock.

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Post by diab0lic »

richev wrote: post #7
twobitshifter wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Helps build trust and friendships, and understand people at a level beyond their job.

I somehow agree with both of these points, but am not sure I understand how that can be.

It can both serve a function (help build extended relationships) and be something people don’t want to do because those relationships can be severed in an instant thanks to at will employment.

Re: Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Post by jayd16 »

Only fair way to do this is just start during the last hour of the work day. You're not asking for donated time but people will probably stay a bit later if they're enjoying themselves. If they're not what's the point, anyway.

But there's so much negativity in these comments. Does everyone here despise casual time with their coworkers or what?

Re: Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Post by earth-adventure »

richev wrote: post #7
twobitshifter wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Helps build trust and friendships, and understand people at a level beyond their job.

I somehow agree with both of these points, but am not sure I understand how that can be.

One statement relates to inter personal relationships. The other relates to the employer - employee relationship.

Re: Patience for after-hours work socializing is wearing thin

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Post by frandroid »

> “The flake-out rate is so much higher at events now,” says Gretchen Goldman, a research director in Takoma Park, Md.

> This summer Goldman sent an invite to 100 colleagues for casual after-work drinks at some picnic tables just outside the office as a goodbye party. She was taking a new job with the federal government. Fewer than 10 showed up.

Maybe don't have an event where people have to BYOB at work?? If I'm doing a going away thing I'm going to a pub.

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