Just one more example of why you shouldn't use private communication without end-to-end encryption.
Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
A "fact of reality", like physics? You need to justify your arguments using logic, not incredible assertions.
Yes, precisely, like physics. I can't justify that claim on HN, for the same reason I can't prove the contents of Physics 101 on HN. If you're curious about my claims, you'll have to go investigate more on your own.
In the case that I am not replying to a troll, can you provide any links or references? If I wanted to research your point of view, where should I begin?
You may not be able to prove Physics 101 on HN, but you could link you to Feynman's lectures on Physics which would get the interested layman started. That's the sort of thing I'm asking for, for this pro-IP viewpoint.
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#153The text looks like it thinks TPB is malware. TPB is certainly not a site I'd visit on a Windows box, the ads bring new meaning to the word "shady".
(Google's safe browsing database disagrees with me here, though.)
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm disappointed to see the destruction of property rights (intellectual or otherwise) being lauded on HN. The RIAA and MPAA make deals with artists to distribute their music, and you want to interfere and just steal it instead. It's dishonest, it's juvenile, and it's eroding at the basis of society (equality under the law, property rights, basic respect and goodwill towards others, etc.).
I am a musician who would never deal with RIAA, instead we put both our albums on The Pirate Bay to download and spread for free. Now I cannot link to those albums in Microsoft software because they censor all links? That my friend is as anti free speech as it gets, and this censorship really erodes society not the sharing and copying of files.
You could distribute them via something like ClearBits.
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#155It's an unregulated private service, they can. It's just that they can no longer claim "commOn carrier" status. If they don't do that for everyone, they are assisting piracy. Let the lawsuits begin.
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#156So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.
There is a plugin for pidgin that will allow you to send encrypted messages. Though it requires that both parties have installed it.
For anybody that is interested, it is called "Off-the-Record Messaging" and you can get the plugin at http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
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#157So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.
There is a plugin for pidgin that will allow you to send encrypted messages. Though it requires that both parties have installed it.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
OTR is all about encryption, it is a plugin which encrypts the messages themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging
I think the GP was thinking of Google Talk's feature to disable logging, which is also called 'off the record'.
He was not: "using a client like Pidgin with an Off The Record (OTR) plugin."
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#159Oh give me a break! I hate when they pull the censorship card like that. It cheapens all other real threats to free speech.
If you like propaganda that justifies pirating, keep reading the Torrent freak blog with their red herrings like censorship and their "battle for free speech".
Microsoft is exercising their rights just like we get to exercise ours. It's a private company offering you free software (as in no money exchanged) and they don't want to let you share torrent files and for good damn reason. I'd do that too if I were Microsoft!
Anyone who claims the Pirate Bay is a place to share cool new media that's released for free is just kidding themselves. Look at their most popular downloads. It's primarily all copyrighted music, movies, and software that are being shared without the owner's consent. Sure, there are a decent number of artists sharing their work via TPB and the Pirate Bay do a lot of promoting of that stuff. But make no mistake, the majority of people are just downloading a bunch of free, copyrighted work.
It would be censorship if Live Messenger were the only or one of few viable options for IM but that's far from being the case. I sincerely doubt Microsoft cares about you downloading albums for free. They just don't want you sharing Windows 8 over their app (when it finally ships, that is) that's all.
Is that not a legitimate concern? To try to stop people from getting your product without paying you? That's reasonable. They put a ton of time and money into developing software and they don't do it for their health. Just because it's digital and takes zero effort to copy doesn't mean that after the first copy is sold everything else should be up for grabs.
Whenever the torrent people start yammering about censorship and free speech and try to sound all hip, smart, and progressive, it's just a distraction. It's really about continuing to operate while ignoring IP laws. Whether you think copyright is okay or not is irrelevant because the laws are on the books and enforced. If all you do in protest of those laws is pirate music and movies you're really just creating more problems for yourself. Piracy alone as a protest only creates more censorship and restrictions of free speech as Torrent Freak would call it. If you really believe in all those nice sounding ideals you have to get up from behind your monitor and write a letter, make a phone call, or actually show up somewhere and do something.
This article was downright laughable. This is just a PR war and damn easy one to win too. It's easy to hate "big evil corporations" and to love getting shit free with little to no effort needed.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree that it's a shame, but rather than blaming the RIAA, I blame it on the pirates. The widespread acceptance of piracy among users of BitTorrent is what is ruining BitTorrent, not people asserting their voluntarily-granted contractual rights (RIAA). That my friend is as anti free speech as it gets, and this censorship really erodes Actually, by flinging about these terms in an incorrect manner, you are damaging…
Sure, Microsoft technically has the right to censor whatever they like, just like pg technically has the right to ban you from Hacker News for writing a comment he doesn't like. Both are disturbing examples of legally infringing on free speech. Stop being so pedantic about language.
People on HN get banned all the time for posting a comment that a mod doesn't like. Browse with showdead on for a bit.
Though at least Microsoft has the courtesy to tell people when something is banned.