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Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

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Re: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

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Children get upset when someone copies from them. Adults realise that there's no such thing as an original idea, but there is such a thing as validated product-market fit.

The 99c vampire romance novels on the Kindle Store don't undermine Stephanie Meyer, they reinforce her status as a thought leader. The waves of Apple-derived industrial design (here's looking at you, HP Envy!) entrench the status of Jony Ive as the only designer that matters. Counterfeit designer clothes and accessories are the reason that luxury department stores in London are now employing Mandarin-speaking staff.

If you're not delighted that people are ripping off your ideas, you've badly misunderstood the modern market. On the internet, the worst thing you can be is ignored. Imitation means that not only is your idea good enough to notice, but that it's good enough to slavishly copy. The clones might get a few hits or a few bucks, but the social capital is all yours.

Re: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

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Children get upset when someone copies from them. Adults realise that there's no such thing as an original idea, but there is such a thing as validated product-market fit. The 99c vampire romance novels on the Kindle Store don't undermine Stephanie Meyer, they reinforce her status as a thought leader. The waves of Apple-derived industrial design (here's looking at you, HP Envy!) entrench the status of Jony Ive as the…

Interesting point. Thanks.

Re: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

#13
I truly believe in taking the core concept of an idea and making it better -- if companies and start ups lag behind and leave room for innovation, why not capitalize on it?

If a company is always progressing and improving upon it's product or service, then this leaves less room for people to come in and steal their idea and "improve" upon it. Even if there are copycats that come into the market and try to improve upon the core concept, the fact that you're working to build upon your business inspires loyalty and reach among your base of users. I think it's these types of companies that are the hardest to compete with, making stealing their idea even tougher to execute.

Re: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

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The value of dcurtis's idea was exclusive content from a carefully selected bunch of people. The (IMO ugly) design of the blog or the idea of the ideas panel are not valuable.

If dcurtis had announced his blog platform; announced his blog network; and released the code I think he would have had a very different response. But his approached trashed the "brand" that he wanted to protect. Just read the comments in anythread mentioning the two products; words like "dick" occur many times.

Re: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

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I think the concept of "stealing an idea" itself is a sort of tribute to the person who originated it. But actually speaking ideas cannot be stolen.

What wiener did is commendable in its own right without taking any credit away from curtis.

But before this turns into a huge thing, please, come back to the ground. This blog idea or the style is pretty trivial. Its not as if this is linux or a programming language or anything like that.

Were I to be in curtis's position, I might feel like I should have been in control of all aspects of unveiling it to the public and noone must take any credit for anything. But then I would be childish now, wouldn't I?

Have we heard from curtis yet? Maybe his opinion is completely different than that of the article's author.

Re: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging

#16
A guy who implements a closed source idea as an open implementation usually ends up getting credit for taking the pain to implement the idea rather than coming up with the idea. The guys who created GNOME/KDE do not get credit for inventing the GUI. They get credit for making a usable opensource implementation of ideas that were born at XEROX PARC and even before that.

Anyone who creates a clone of a closed app is providing the starting point for derivative work. Even if the "first author" did nothing more than clone functionality, subsequent authors shall build new awesome features on top of that.

If you want to prevent OSS from getting in your way of making money, all you need to ensure is that you care about delighting customers. For Eg consider Google. they use android for controlling the platform on which search happens. The linux kernel hackers actually care very little about whether ur mom can use the phone. The non cool aspects of project get very little attention. To run a business, all you need to do is pay as much attention to the non cool parts of a project.

Apple still sells devices with huge margins. So all Dustin Curtis needs to do is "be the steve jobs" of his niche. He can make money off of it, if he chooses to, and get credit for what he creates true value from and the open implementations can co-exist.

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