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I think Fastly offers some similar products: https://www.fastly.com/edge-cloud-network/ But Cloudflare offers a lot of features/services. What specifically are you trying to find alternatives for?
This is something I've looked for many times before. I actually don't want the CDN side of Cloudflare (some parts of my app are incompatible with the way their CDN works), but I do want the WAF. But Cloudflare doesn't let you disable the CDN side of their service. It's all or nothing. Anybody have alternatives to Cloudflare's WAF?
> But Cloudflare doesn't let you disable the CDN side of their service. It's all or nothing. Are you sure about this? It's been a year or so since I've used it, but I remember being able to disable a lot of specific performance/caching stuff (where the CDN comes in) via its Page Rules and "Cache Level - Bypass": https://developers.cloudflare.com/support/page-rules/underst...
Date:
Original-Date:
This resulted in a considerable headache on my end [^0], because the Date header was being used for cryptographic signatures. So 1/100 requests would have an invalid signature for no apparent reason. But the reason was Cloudflare not acting as a good proxy, overwriting the Date header that had already been set.
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> But Cloudflare doesn't let you disable the CDN side of their service. It's all or nothing. Are you sure about this? It's been a year or so since I've used it, but I remember being able to disable a lot of specific performance/caching stuff (where the CDN comes in) via its Page Rules and "Cache Level - Bypass": https://developers.cloudflare.com/support/page-rules/underst...
Yes, unfortunately. I've confirmed it with their support. Requests always hit their CDN. For example, set up a small server that sends the following response headers: Date: Original-Date: Cloudflare will always rewrite the Date header, you just won't notice it until the Date header happens to fall on a time a few ms from the next second (e.g. Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:02:51.999). This is because by the time Cloudflare proc…
I think Fastly offers some similar products: https://www.fastly.com/edge-cloud-network/ But Cloudflare offers a lot of features/services. What specifically are you trying to find alternatives for?
Essentially we just need 1) edge cache to cache response from our website / api 2) and firewall rules
This is something I've looked for many times before. I actually don't want the CDN side of Cloudflare (some parts of my app are incompatible with the way their CDN works), but I do want the WAF. But Cloudflare doesn't let you disable the CDN side of their service. It's all or nothing. Anybody have alternatives to Cloudflare's WAF?
https://www.fastly.com/products/web-application-api-protecti...
Imperva also has one, but I can't recommend that one. We had them before Cloudflare and they were ridiculously expensive and not very good. Cloudflare was dramatically better and several orders of magnitude cheaper. That was back in like 2015 though so maybe it's different now.
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> But Cloudflare doesn't let you disable the CDN side of their service. It's all or nothing. Are you sure about this? It's been a year or so since I've used it, but I remember being able to disable a lot of specific performance/caching stuff (where the CDN comes in) via its Page Rules and "Cache Level - Bypass": https://developers.cloudflare.com/support/page-rules/underst...
Yes, unfortunately. I've confirmed it with their support. Requests always hit their CDN. For example, set up a small server that sends the following response headers: Date: Original-Date: Cloudflare will always rewrite the Date header, you just won't notice it until the Date header happens to fall on a time a few ms from the next second (e.g. Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:02:51.999). This is because by the time Cloudflare proc…
I'd imagine a lot of proxies in general will overwrite that date. At least on the corporate proxy side of things.
Never had any issues with receiving solid support but our account manager has been super good. I will say there's been a lot of turnover after they went public but overall the service has been solid for our use case. (delivering terabytes of peer data and analytics a month)
Have you brought any of these issues or concerns up to your account manager? Curious if they had any ways to help.
We are using Cloudflare enterprise as well and have a phone number to call, including an SLA for P1 support tickets, which I believe is 2 hours. [0] Never had any issues with receiving solid support but our account manager has been super good. I will say there's been a lot of turnover after they went public but overall the service has been solid for our use case. (delivering terabytes of peer data and analytics a mon…
i don’t think we have one …
this might be a mistake from them or us that we didn’t get one account manager at the beginning …
is the phone number you use on the cloudflare website? or is it from some private conversation in email threads with your account manager?
we might do the enterprise plan wrong …
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Yes, unfortunately. I've confirmed it with their support. Requests always hit their CDN. For example, set up a small server that sends the following response headers: Date: Original-Date: Cloudflare will always rewrite the Date header, you just won't notice it until the Date header happens to fall on a time a few ms from the next second (e.g. Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:02:51.999). This is because by the time Cloudflare proc…
is using your own headers for date not the solution here? I'd imagine a lot of proxies in general will overwrite that date. At least on the corporate proxy side of things.
We are using Cloudflare enterprise as well and have a phone number to call, including an SLA for P1 support tickets, which I believe is 2 hours. [0] Never had any issues with receiving solid support but our account manager has been super good. I will say there's been a lot of turnover after they went public but overall the service has been solid for our use case. (delivering terabytes of peer data and analytics a mon…
where to find account manager? i don’t think we have one … this might be a mistake from them or us that we didn’t get one account manager at the beginning … is the phone number you use on the cloudflare website? or is it from some private conversation in email threads with your account manager? we might do the enterprise plan wrong …