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Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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HN is slowly turning into Reddit.

TPB is probably being censored by the software because some automated process to ingest and aggregate threating sites flagged that site as hosting malware. This is just like Google stopping you from clicking thru to sites which they know host virii / trojans. Calm down.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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We'll be seeing a lot more of this in the next couple of years. The RIAA and the MPAA will get more and more desperate and will call in more favors with industry buddies as they get closer to the recognition that they are losing the war in spite of winning a couple of battles. In the Netherlands 'Brein', one of the rights organizations has done more to promote the pirate bay than the pirate bay ever could have hoped…

I'm disappointed to see the destruction of property rights (intellectual or otherwise) being lauded on HN. The RIAA and MPAA make deals with artists to distribute their music, and you want to interfere and just steal it instead. It's dishonest, it's juvenile, and it's eroding at the basis of society (equality under the law, property rights, basic respect and goodwill towards others, etc.).

Well, at least some of us are against RIAA and MPAA, not because we want to steal their stuff, but because they are trying to kill our technologies and tools - which have fair, legal and genuine uses as well. They brought DMCA, made reverse-engineering illegal (even if no infringement happened), pushed for SOPA and are willing to go even further.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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I'm disappointed to see the destruction of property rights (intellectual or otherwise) being lauded on HN. The RIAA and MPAA make deals with artists to distribute their music, and you want to interfere and just steal it instead. It's dishonest, it's juvenile, and it's eroding at the basis of society (equality under the law, property rights, basic respect and goodwill towards others, etc.).

What is fascinating to me is the hypocrisy. Most HNers probably believe some sort of property rights for software (or even blog designs). May here would argue that the GPL is a great license and violators should be punished. You can also often read that Hollywood and the Music Industry are producing worthless crap, but yet The Pirate Bay is dominated by commercial entertainment, not by Creative Commons content. Much…

I think it is a reaction to the copyright cartel, but not necessarily an emotional one. The cartel's position is crazy enough and harmful enough that I'm much closer to being on TPB's side than theirs. The enemy of my enemy. Similarly, if a rabid bear got loose in my house, I might temporarily befriend someone who I'd caught taking from my wallet — my interests align more with the thief's than the rabid bear's.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Yeah, because I just can't stand to pay an enormous amount like $10 or $20 for that book or album I really have to have. I think it's unreasonable to expect people who make things to be able to profit from them for more than 5 years. Hell, why don't we make all property expire after 5 or 10 years? Please don't take the sarcasm personally; it was just the best way to illustrate my point.

> Yeah, because I just can't stand to pay an enormous amount like $10 or $20 for that book or album I really have to have. This isn't about listening to something or reading something. It's about the ability to remix and build upon it. > I think it's unreasonable to expect people who make things to be able to profit from them for more than 5 years. It doesn't matter, because most people don't profit from their works…

This isn't about listening to something or reading something. It's about the ability to remix and build upon it.

Yes, those pirate bay users are all about remixing and building upon stuff... /s

How about inventing something new?

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Messages in OS X Mountain Lion will support end-to-end encryption by default (for messages sent through iMessage)[1]. [1] http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/features.html#mess...

This pretty surprising. Given the industry standard with mining similar communications I'm surprised that Apple gave up a gigantic pool of user information like that.

Apple is not an advertising company.

They have also made other similar moves to the same effect.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#77

We'll be seeing a lot more of this in the next couple of years. The RIAA and the MPAA will get more and more desperate and will call in more favors with industry buddies as they get closer to the recognition that they are losing the war in spite of winning a couple of battles. In the Netherlands 'Brein', one of the rights organizations has done more to promote the pirate bay than the pirate bay ever could have hoped…

We'll know it's over when the music industry distributes music via torrent, by which time they'll be lobbying against direct brain transfer from band to listener.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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To be fair, there is a lot of malware masquerading as The Lion King.torrent. They may not care about the piracy aspect; they may just want their users to have less malware on their computers, especially since Windows machines seem to be a prime target for botnets.

The comment section always have people informing if it is malware or not, besides; in that line of logic they would have to censor all file hosting services (those don't even have comment section)

Eh, the comment section very often contains people notifying everyone that a) the torrent contains malware, and b) the torrent does not contain malware. It's such a crapshoot. The uncertainty would put me off pirating as much if nothing else did.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #39

We'll be seeing a lot more of this in the next couple of years. The RIAA and the MPAA will get more and more desperate and will call in more favors with industry buddies as they get closer to the recognition that they are losing the war in spite of winning a couple of battles. In the Netherlands 'Brein', one of the rights organizations has done more to promote the pirate bay than the pirate bay ever could have hoped…

I'm disappointed to see the destruction of property rights (intellectual or otherwise) being lauded on HN. The RIAA and MPAA make deals with artists to distribute their music, and you want to interfere and just steal it instead. It's dishonest, it's juvenile, and it's eroding at the basis of society (equality under the law, property rights, basic respect and goodwill towards others, etc.).

I am a musician who would never deal with RIAA, instead we put both our albums on The Pirate Bay to download and spread for free.

Now I cannot link to those albums in Microsoft software because they censor all links?

That my friend is as anti free speech as it gets, and this censorship really erodes society not the sharing and copying of files.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Messages in OS X Mountain Lion will support end-to-end encryption by default (for messages sent through iMessage)[1]. [1] http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/features.html#mess...

This pretty surprising. Given the industry standard with mining similar communications I'm surprised that Apple gave up a gigantic pool of user information like that.

Follow the money. Collecting user information is (in most cases) a distraction for Apple that could blow up in their face and lead to a serious PR fallout. See locationgate. See Path's address book shenanigans.

It's in their best interest not only not to secretly collect user information, they also want to show that they care about stuff like that (because then they can point their finger at others).

Apple cares about credit card info (because that allows them to let their customers easily pay for everything, it lowers the barrier), but Apple doesn't have to covertly collect that, they are far too popular to need such shady tactics. And that's about it. iAds might matter, but it seems to be a flop and Apple isn't exactly heavily invested in it.

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