So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.
Possibly Skype? It does have end to end encryption but this is hard to validate independently.
Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
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Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
#32While I'd be willing to bet this is due to some malware flag (as that pretty much always ends up being the case with IM provider X is censoring Y), I am baffled as to why people would consider it scandalous that a multi-billion dollar company who makes pretty much all of its revenue from selling intellectual property licenses might drop links conveyed using its free service to a site that is unabashedly one of the wo…
The would consider it scandalous because:
1) they consider their communications private
2) they think that what they type into an IM client will pop out on the other end unchanged
3) they believe that their relationship with the facilitator of their communications media should not be subject to relationships that provider has with other commercial parties.
Where does it end? Being unable to share the link of your favourite restaurant because it hurts the interests of your communications provider?
The amount of modification of any messages by two parties that trust each other enough to engage in one-on-one communications should be set to '0' by default, unless they request otherwise.
Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
#33While I'd be willing to bet this is due to some malware flag (as that pretty much always ends up being the case with IM provider X is censoring Y), I am baffled as to why people would consider it scandalous that a multi-billion dollar company who makes pretty much all of its revenue from selling intellectual property licenses might drop links conveyed using its free service to a site that is unabashedly one of the wo…
Because people consider what they send in their email to be theirs, not something a faceless corporation has graciously allowed them to utter. People are also beginning to correlate these mega-companies with government-type power, especially over information (hense the use of the word "censor"). Combine these, and you get the outrage.
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#34As more and more of this surface in critical times of SOPA/PIPA/ACTA etc. we will see an "outer net" emerging soon based on a p2p solution and highly encrypted. I know there is TOR but it`s not cutting it yet. Maybe one of the big players (Google?) will join this battle for free speech and an open internet. Most of us do not want to be censored in any way. The Unstoppable Force vs The Immovable Object.
Google needs the cooperation of the content industry to make its media service, Google Play, anything approaching successful. If the choice is between censoring content and having a successful product then kowtowing to the other entities will always win.
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#35Solution from the comments: tinyurl.com (or similar). This should be instinct for many twitter users by now
Shortened urls are trivial to check, and could still be easily blocked. Or else the url shortening services will just be flagged themselves as being "bad" links.
Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
#36While I'd be willing to bet this is due to some malware flag (as that pretty much always ends up being the case with IM provider X is censoring Y), I am baffled as to why people would consider it scandalous that a multi-billion dollar company who makes pretty much all of its revenue from selling intellectual property licenses might drop links conveyed using its free service to a site that is unabashedly one of the wo…
I wouldn't be so sure. When Microsoft tries to do something like the following, their intentions become very suspicious:
http://www.conceivablytech.com/8108/products/microsoft-may-a...
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#37Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
#38MSN/Live Messenger is blocking all URLs ending in .torrent for years already. But blocking a FQDN like thepiratebay.org is even stranger... who makes/maintains these censoring block lists, and why is this not explained to users?
Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger
#39We'll be seeing a lot more of this in the next couple of years. The RIAA and the MPAA will get more and more desperate and will call in more favors with industry buddies as they get closer to the recognition that they are losing the war in spite of winning a couple of battles. In the Netherlands 'Brein', one of the rights organizations has done more to promote the pirate bay than the pirate bay ever could have hoped…
I'm disappointed to see the destruction of property rights (intellectual or otherwise) being lauded on HN.
The RIAA and MPAA make deals with artists to distribute their music, and you want to interfere and just steal it instead. It's dishonest, it's juvenile, and it's eroding at the basis of society (equality under the law, property rights, basic respect and goodwill towards others, etc.).
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, there is a lot of malware masquerading as The Lion King.torrent. They may not care about the piracy aspect; they may just want their users to have less malware on their computers, especially since Windows machines seem to be a prime target for botnets.
The comment section always have people informing if it is malware or not, besides; in that line of logic they would have to censor all file hosting services (those don't even have comment section)
Firsty, comment sections are usually full of noise and it's next to impossible to distill any valuable information out of it. Secondly, don't expect an average person to bother checking for potential malware.