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Re: The worst programmer I know

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You have missed the point. It has nothing to do with coding but everything to do with adding tangible value towards achieving an Objective Goal (Business/Technology/whatever). Hence the Problem Domain and technologies used in the Solution Domain are what matter and everything else is ancillary. The Processes/Methodologies used are only useful in as much as they help us understand the problem domain better and map it…

> You have missed the point. No, I think at least in large part, you missed the point. > It has nothing to do with coding but everything to do with adding tangible value towards achieving an Objective Goal (Business/Technology/whatever). As I understood _Bullshit Jobs,_ "adding tangible value" to some business that doesn't actually add anything of actual (non-monetary) value to the world is bullshit. There are whole…

You are talking about the meaningfulness/meaninglessness of the Business/Technology Objective itself. That aspect is certainly relevant and can be Bullshit (eg. companies selling Scrum master/Agile coach certifications :-) but in the context of this thread we are talking about the bullshit jobs created within an organization in the bureaucratic/administrative/managerial/leadership "roles". This is what is more insidious and needs to be rebelled against.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs :

... as he describes, five types of entirely pointless jobs: ... 5. Taskmasters, who create extra work for those who do not need it, e.g., middle management, leadership professionals.

In companies, he concludes that the rise of service sector jobs owes less to economic need than to "managerial feudalism", in which employers need underlings in order to feel important and maintain competitive status and power.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_job :

Graeber also formulated the concept of bullshitization, where previously meaningful work turns into a bullshit job through corporatization, marketization or managerialism.

Re: The worst programmer I know

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Personally I want the seniors on my team actually delivering on the really hard stuff. Helping juniors do their job is great and all, but you still need experienced people to work on the hard and complex stuff that juniors can't because they don't have the knowledge/experience/people-skills. No amount of pair programming can replace that. You don't want to be in a situation where you have really really well implement…

> Helping juniors do their job is great and all, but you still need experienced people to work on the hard and complex stuff that juniors can't because they don't have the knowledge/experience/people-skills. No amount of pair programming can replace that.

Or, it could be said, you need to refactor your codebase so no job is all that "hard and complex".

Should have had one of those seniors build it in the first place, eh, then juniors could be trusted to modify it. Or, what you say, he did? Then why is he "a senior" in the first place, if stuff is "hard and complex" because of how he built it...?

Re: The worst programmer I know

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When you can get a bootcamp certificate, and then get two remote jobs and coast at both for 12 months, and then repeat, what could a union do for you?

Are you currently doing this? Living in an expensive region like Western Europe/North America? If this first or second hand, let's hear more about it.

Second hand - but there are subreddits all about it. People are doing it.

Re: The worst programmer I know

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"Hey, boss who can fire me, I just thought you should know that we on the team have started keeping metrics. I want you to know that your 'times you made the only girl on the team uncomfortable with a sexist joke' metric is unusually high this month, and your 'unblocked the team by speeding up an external request' metric is 0 for this month, down from 3 times last month" Let me know if you find any downsides. Anyway,…

The logical conclusion to that argument is that we should do away with the lot of them.

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Re: The worst programmer I know

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> Some 20 years ago... I called "house calls": visiting other developers' offices... Ah, the good ol early 2000s, where devs had "offices" or "cubicles" to themselves.

Now I have a whole house with two offices, just for me!

Lucky you.
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