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Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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Post by doki_pen »

Java. It's not the language itself. I don't really mind any language. It's the insane amount of time it takes to iterate on a large project. Absolutely miserable. I don't know why they don't have a compilation system more inline with what python or ruby do, even if it's just a "development" mode.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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Post by zaphar »

xyzzyz wrote: post #157
zaphar wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the language can tell me when it executes the code that the type is wrong then I consider that type safe. Less usefully type safe than at compile time but safe nonetheless. If the language treats a string as a number in some cases without an error then that is most definitely not type safe.

What's the reason why you don't consider (Common) Lisp to be type safe then?

I prefer prefer strong statically typed languages.

Just because php is at one extreme end of the spectrum of my preferences for type safety doesn't mean that other things can't be closer but not quite on my end of the spectrum yet.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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Post by zaphar »

EGreg wrote: post #155
zaphar wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second statements communicates to me that you like it because it's a toy language. It may be useful for just getting something small done and getting started but for someone who looks at programming as an enjoyable craft php loses it's shine. Especially once you've been exposed to other languages that highlight how much better it could be.

I actually disagree to some extent. I know, it's PHP. But it can do some pretty amazing things if you think in terms of files. If you're coming from a C background, it's actually quite nice. For example, you can use include ( ) in so many ways, autoload classes, write getters/setters and override anything, implement views, etc. Everything "just runs", or can be compiled into fast code with HipHop (or cached with APC)…

Actually I upvoted you. Just because I dislike PHP doesn't mean someone else can't like it.
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