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Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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So I did my first part in trying to support everyone who dislikes this as much as I do. I cancelled my Prime and I will try to not purchase anything from Amazon for a year. It's not much, but it's something. I invite everyone to do the same.

For those that want to follow, what are good online shopping alternatives? I find that most people I talk to are drawn to Amazon simply because Amazon has managed to set an expectation of fast deliver, often as little as same-day delivery in areas that have a warehouse nearby (like the one I live in). I make every effort to shop local, or find alternative places to order online, but one cannot argue the convenience A…

I recently switched to Walmart Plus. For me, on the whole, it's better:

- Shipping times are faster than Amazon. I do consistently see same-day delivery, whereas Amazon almost never did, and had frequent delays (in my area)

- Less of a problem with comingling / fakes

- Returns work better.

- So far, no broken / damaged packaging. Amazon would e.g. toss delicate items, a heavy bottle of detergent, and sharps in the same box with no packaging, with the expected results.

On the downside:

- It's slightly more expensive. On the whole, went accounting for broken / damaged items, fakes, etc., I still think I come out ahead.

- Less selection of esoteric items. I just order those from Aliexpress, Amazon, or eBay (and wait until I get up to $35 free shipping for the former). Amazon never shipped those quickly in either case.

This was not based on unions or ethics. Amazon worked great for me through 2020. It broke in 2020, and since then, I've had consistent issues. Customer service is also no longer empowered to resolve issues.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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> Our business model is built on speed, innovation, and customer obsession. Things not generally associated with unions.

Unions are there to stop employers using their might to exploit their workers - sorry - associates. Unions and management have a valid stake in the company. No company, no workers, no profit.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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Transcript:

    Welcome! We're excited to have you at this training, specifically designed to give you the tools you need for success when it comes to labor organizing. During this course, we will cover important topics such as our position on unions, associate's rights, signs of employee disengagement, and how to identify, escalate, and address associate's concerns.

    We're not anti-union, but we're not neutral either. We will boldly defend our direct relationship with associates as best for the associate, the business, and our shareholders. We do not believe unions are in the best interest of our customers, our shareholders, or most importantly: our associates. Our business model is built upon speed, innovation, and customer obsession. Things that are generally not associated with Unions. When we lose sight of those critical focus areas, we jeopardize everyone's job security. We don't bad mouth unions in general, but we will speak openly with associates about unions, including any specific concerns about particular unions involved in organizing. And we share a preference for a direct working relationship frequently and boldly, even when no organizing activity has occurred.

    You will learn about the warning signs common with early union organizing, as well as other warning signs that could indicate associate disengagement, vulnerability to organizing, or early organizing activity. While employees have the right to organize, we have the right and responsibility to share our position that a direct working relationship is better for the customer, the company, and the associate. In order to be able to do that effectively, it is critical that we recognize the early warning signs of potential organizing and escalate concerns promptly. If you see warning signs of potential organizing, notify your building HRM and GM sight leader immediately. HRM's and GM's site leaders should notify their assigned ER managers or ER principal immediately. The most obvious signs would include use of words associative with unions or union-led movements such as 'living wage' or 'steward.' Petitions or other concerted activity such as an associate purporting to speak on behalf of his or her coworkers when raising concerns. Union graffiti, union t-shirts, hats, jackets, or other clothing. Union flyers, and union visitors in or near the parking lot. Some signs are less obvious than finding the actual union flyer, but they can still indicate associate disengagement, which is itself a warning sign for potential organizing. Examples include: associates who normally aren't connected to each other suddenly hanging out together, associates normally close suddenly stop speaking to each other, groups of associates scatter when approached by management, increased associate negativity, anger, or confrontation; unusual complaints or change in passion or detail around complaints. Unusual interest in policies, benefits, employee lists, or any other company information, or any other associate activity that is out of character. For example, an associate who normally leaves promptly begins hanging out in the break room for an hour after work each day. In order to recognize warning signs, it's critical to know what an associate's normal behavior looks like - often it's the change in behavior that is the warning sign.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paying you more than the absolute minimum is not in the interests of our Customers, Shareholders, Associates, Shareholders and our Shareholders.

Amazon actually pays significantly above the minimum wage, this frequently leads to complaints by businesses located near their plants that they have to hike their pay in response to still get workers. NYT did a nice article on this two years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/business/economy/amazon-w...

That's true, but I don't think it's altruism. Working conditions that incent people to urinate in a bottle to avoid being marked as slow...tend to mean higher wages are needed to close that deal.

Higher being relative, of course. I know from a historical perspective that warehouse work in the 1980's, after a couple of years, was enough to pay for a modest apartment and car, etc. It's not now.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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I have so many ambivalent feelings about the whole IT / Silicon Valley sector. Although many people are interested and even passionate about technology, I feel we can’t look away from the bigger picture in which it operates. I support a startup - that wants to ethical - on AWS, owned by a union buster that exploits people and - like many other companies - gets rich through wage theft. Airbnb has been a negative influ…

> Airbnb has been a negative influence on the housing market

airbnb exposed the fact the societies are full of nimbys and politicians are useless. all while providing a good alternative to hotels.

> Uber, well, do I even need to discuss that one?

uber is amazing. it completely undercut the monopolies of the taxi companies. it provides an amazing service at a reasonable price.

> our centuries old nemesis: Capitalism.

you're referring to the the biggest driver of wealth, education and health in the history of humanity as a nemesis? humans are, right now, the richest, most educated and healthiest they have ever been in their short history on this planet, and that is due to capital first and foremost.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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> Our business model is built on speed, innovation, and customer obsession. Things not generally associated with unions. Unions are there to stop employers using their might to exploit their workers - sorry - associates. Unions and management have a valid stake in the company. No company, no workers, no profit.

> Unions are there to stop employers using their might to exploit their workers

in theory yes. in practice it gets murky.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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What a beautiful example of propaganda, in the truest sense of the term.

The guitar intro is folksy, the guy is warm and lovely, and _excited_ to have us at this training.... it's about your "success".

Success of course, is not getting fired for being a collaborator with counter-revolutionary "associates" who reject Generalissimo Uberführer Bezos inspired vision and "history making" five year masterplan for "direct working relationships".

I can honestly imagine this in a museum of the 21st Century one day, like how you can go to the British Museum and watch 1938 films of "doctors" measuring Jew's heads for criminal degeneracy.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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Here the long version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpwVwFxyk4

If anything, watching the long version makes it even worse. Regardless of what one may think of unions, them portraying this video as some sort of objective (mandatory?) training session really feels dirty. You do not choose words such as "warning signs" and "vulnerability to organising" by accident. Personal "favourites" would probably be the "Is this comment a warning sign or an innocent interaction?" training and advice such as "By being silent at times in a conversation, an associate may divulge information rather than you interrogating them (which is illegal)" and "Be a regular in the break room so that you can not be accused of only being there to monitor union activity when it occurs".

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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So I did my first part in trying to support everyone who dislikes this as much as I do. I cancelled my Prime and I will try to not purchase anything from Amazon for a year. It's not much, but it's something. I invite everyone to do the same.

For those that want to follow, what are good online shopping alternatives? I find that most people I talk to are drawn to Amazon simply because Amazon has managed to set an expectation of fast deliver, often as little as same-day delivery in areas that have a warehouse nearby (like the one I live in). I make every effort to shop local, or find alternative places to order online, but one cannot argue the convenience A…

Target, Costco, and Newegg (for certain items) come to mind has having good prices and return policies.

Re: Amazon training video on handling unionizing activity (2018) [video]

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This is beyond disgusting, and definitely not acceptable. So much for being "the world's best employer". I want to dig a hole and bury myself from the embarrassment of being associated with this company.

Wait until you learn what happens to returned packages.
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