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Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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You missed the worst one in the world - Mumps (or M). Terrible language that produces (seemingly automatically) terrible software. It also rots the brains of those that are forced to use it. All of those listed have their charms - seems hard to dislike them in the main.

Had to look this one up. It's amazing that after 15+ years of programming I keep coming across technologies that seem to live in a parallel universe.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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I don't expect that the responses to this will be enlightening. In fact, I can predict right now that the winner of this poll will be the most commonly-used language which isn't widely considered to be "nice". Depending on the precise demographics of this site, that's either going to be Java, C++ or Javascript, despite the fact that there are clearly worse languages out there (Fortran, COBOL, Brainfuck...) The reason…

True, but the original question was not "what is the worst programming language" but rather "what is the most disliked". So I do believe we'll get the results that you've predicted (you should add PHP to the list) but at least we're answering the question at hand.

We wont be incredibly enlightened but it will be interesting to see the results and what that tells us about HN readers. Perhaps we'll learn some interesting stuff from the comments as well.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d give it a try if it worked on Windows or Linux. I’m not willing to buy a Mac just to be able to study a language-I could build a Hackintosh but it’s too much trouble for what it’s worth. Most of the languages out there work on any platform. Even C# works on Unices through Mono. But for Apple’s products its always the same story, our way or the highway.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the language itself can be used on almost any platform with gcc, not just OS X.

You are correct. GNUstep would be the most well known project to make use of ObjC outside of the Apple world. Also, since it implements the OpenStep API, you could use it to get a basic feel for Mac development without jumping in to the Apple fog.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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I think for a language to be disliked it should be in one of the following categories: 1) First category is where you are forced to use it, and it is easy enough to get started in. For these languages the programmer base is big enough for the mandatory awkward features of the language be stumbled onto frequently enough to gather all the hate, and also big enough for the language hating to become a pop culture. Javasc…

1. I think it's possible to have a hatred of C++ that doesn't stem from a lack of understanding of the language. I think the C++ FQA ( http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/ ) addresses a lot of the dislike people have with C++ that has nothing to do with ignorance of the language. 2. Saying that C# doesn't add anything to Java isn't even a simplification, it's flat out wrong. That argument may have been slightly valid in the C#…

You are partially right about C#, my experience with it dates back to the 1.0 version, but even with all these enhancements is it worth spending in the effort of learning two similar languages when you could be learning a different paradigm which will expand your mind in different dimensions and will make you a better programmer. If you are proficient in Java and want to move to .NET why not learn F# instead.

About you comparing CoffeeScript with Clojure is not fair at all. Clojure gives a whole new world on top of JVM, while CoffeeScript is just syntactic sugar for Javascript.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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post #24

Anything .NET, because I don't see the point of learning a proprietary non-cross platform language.

Agreed 100%. In addition software written in it seems to have the following other problems frequently - Using Oracle - Rarely contributing to FOSS - Using very non-agile development methods - 9 to 5 corporate culture - Bad UIs and boring software overall - Terrible web accessibility and standards conformity - Hearing people say, "Its better than Delphi" as a comparison point But those are just my experiences in worki…

I was originally taught VB in school and thought it was amazing. Of course, I needed to get a student license for Visual Studio...and I needed to wait an hour to install it everytime I bought a new computer...oh and what I created could never be used by anyone on a Mac or Linux system.

A couple weeks later I discovered the wonderful world of Linux and never looked back.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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post #69

I think for a language to be disliked it should be in one of the following categories: 1) First category is where you are forced to use it, and it is easy enough to get started in. For these languages the programmer base is big enough for the mandatory awkward features of the language be stumbled onto frequently enough to gather all the hate, and also big enough for the language hating to become a pop culture. Javasc…

I hate Python with a passion I cannot express or explain.

s/Python/Ruby/

Actually, add regex to my hate list.

Re: Poll: What's Your Most Disliked Programming Language?

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post #84

PHP. There are worse languages, but PHP is hard to avoid. I want to do some simple automation on a website. Because I don't like PHP, I have to pay a premium for a Windows based host that supports ASP.NET.

Windows licence is not free, you know? And there are plenty Linux hosting options that provide other language runtimes.
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