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New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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:D What calculation did you use though? Like some formula or is there a web utility for this, for example?

https://www.google.com/search?q=3+m%2Fs%5E2+%2F+%28gravitati... I think

I don't understand, is that what you used originally to come up with your original comment (this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37483892)?

If so, that is surprisingly similar to what I ended up with when trying to validate it!

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Interesting that they went with an open-cockpit design. I'd have thought closed cockpit would be faster because of better aerodynamics, even at these relatively low speeds. Any idea why this was chosen?

This is the typical design for the competition this car was originally build for. The rules of Formula Student require an open cockpit with a hoop, and you have to demonstrate that your driver is able to egress within 2(?) seconds if I remember correctly.

This record was set with a modified version the car they competed with last season.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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One of the photos really brought something home to me. Where I would expect to see an axle or something to provide torque to wheels from the engine, there is just a yellow wire. I know that's how electric cars work. But something about it in the racing car context just brings it home to me - electricity just works differently to all our other intuitions about the world. Factories used to have bands and axels taking p…

Yeah, they've taken the "distribute mechanical work" part out of the process.

It's amazing that all those car cylinders going up and down (or technically, being forced up and down by tiny explosions) are transformed into work.

Rotary motion -> work has been part of humanity for a long time. I suppose in our space-bound future it won't be a big factor

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Then there's the Brabham BT46 "Fan car" that actually raced in F1. Once. Before it was banned. :-) https://youtu.be/B294RfWj1QE?si=jxYpIgwtH44at6Bq

...and it's current spiritual successors The McLaren F1 and now the GMA T.50 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_F1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Murray_Automotive_T.50

From a Youtube interview with Gordon Murray I saw, the T.50 has fan-enhanced diffusers, the fan ingesting the boundary layer to prevent flow separation.

It's not able to produce extra downforce at zero speed.

The McMurtry Spéirling is more akin to this, with a 1.4s 0-60mph run.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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I am curious what sort of physical preparation the driver (Kate Maggetti) did to train for these runs, if any? Surprisingly the average g-force is just under 3 g.

Not sure but it's fairly mild compared to what I think is the fastest accelerating car, Sammy Miller's Vanishing point which I think recorded 26g. They had some failsafe to stop the car if he passed out on that one. (car doing a 3.22 quarter https://youtu.be/7QC6tymIvKA?t=213)

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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The dragsters need to have a complete engine tear-down after nearly every run, regularly explode in a giant ball of flame, etc.

They also blow a lot of that power out of the exhaust pipe. I bet in terms of efficiency per km/h/s the electic go-kart wins.

The exhaust provides downforce though.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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In Micromouse ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromouse ) - a competition where autonomous devices solve a mouse maze - the fastest competitors are all using fans to increase traction (and thus speed).

radicalbyte, you're absolutely right that the use of fans in Micromouse increases the traction, and therefore the speed at which the maze is solved. Suction allows for impressive performances. However, a small caveat that might be worth considering is that while the suction indeed increases speed, it might be more accurate to say that it primarily improves acceleration instead of car speed: The issue often lies with…

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Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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The irony of advocating against a "separate utility", and then promoting a separate utility...

You never use a calculator?

I use calculators plenty, but I neither have that one installed nor use it. On my PC, I use either grpn or units. More often, I pull out my HP 48G+.

Re: New world record with an electric racing car: From 0 to 100 in 0.956 seconds

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Impressive but for reference, about half the acceleration of a Top Fuel dragster, which are also still getting faster. Here's Brittany Force who holds the current records (fastest time, fastest speed): https://www.nhra.com/news/2022/brittany-force-sets-national-... 0 to 338.43 mph in 3.665 seconds over 1000 feet. (The cars got too fast for 1,320 feet and have been racing 1000 feet since 2008.)

Electric: 0-60mph in ~0.9s Top Fuel: 0-60mph in ~0.4s Wow.

yeah top fuel is bonkers those engines literally eat themselves alive down the track within milliseconds! hardcore!!!!
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