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Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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This is solely because HP is so terrible at updating their drivers for new operating systems. Every HP printer I've owned eventually didn't support the next version of windows. No brother printer I've ever owned has had this problem.

On the other hand my HP color AirPrint compatible printer that I bought in 2016 works with everything from an old iPad running iOS 5 circa 2010 that I pulled out of the closet to the latest Apple devices with no drivers.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#52

Printing at home is so horrible. I have a printer connected to my Wifi router. It changes IP every time I reboot. When it changes IP, Windows can't find it. I can give the printer a static IP but how many people know to do this? Wifi has been around for more than 2 decades. Isn't that enough time to figure out a solution?

I don’t bother owning a home printer. They basically all suck. Easier to just go to the library and print.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#54

Printing at home is so horrible. I have a printer connected to my Wifi router. It changes IP every time I reboot. When it changes IP, Windows can't find it. I can give the printer a static IP but how many people know to do this? Wifi has been around for more than 2 decades. Isn't that enough time to figure out a solution?

I don’t bother owning a home printer. They basically all suck. Easier to just go to the library and print.

That was fine for me until I had a special tax circumstance that couldn't be e-filed, hello gazillion pages! amongst the other random things I was printing at a library or fedex this pushed it over the edge

laser printers are the way

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#56

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Thankfully people at Apple thought this can be easier. They came up with Bonjour... Bonjour is apparently also known as ZeroConf [1]. Microsoft is behind the times. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking

Bonjour struggles to find printers much more than Windows. My Windows users just click add printer and it just works. And let's not talk about file shares. Macs literally can't connect to any file shares except Windows ones (since AFP is out of support), and then only with Samba, and only with Apple's botched implementation of Samba which crashes, because it needs to create metafile databases on said shares, if a sha…

I can’t comment on the file share tangent, but in my experience with a Bonjour-equipped Brother laser printer over the past eight or so years, I don’t think I can recall it failing to connect once.

Granted, I’m on a Mac and I print about five times a year, so YMMV.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#57

Printing at home is so horrible. I have a printer connected to my Wifi router. It changes IP every time I reboot. When it changes IP, Windows can't find it. I can give the printer a static IP but how many people know to do this? Wifi has been around for more than 2 decades. Isn't that enough time to figure out a solution?

I don’t bother owning a home printer. They basically all suck. Easier to just go to the library and print.

Get an old brother laser printer, they are rock solid.

Better yet, setup Airprint as well. The novelty of printing from my phone never wears off. (coming from an old head).

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t bother owning a home printer. They basically all suck. Easier to just go to the library and print.

That was fine for me until I had a special tax circumstance that couldn't be e-filed, hello gazillion pages! amongst the other random things I was printing at a library or fedex this pushed it over the edge laser printers are the way

Half my family now owns the small desktop sized sub-£200 Kyocera laser printers. It was honestly revolutionary the first few times I was able to connect to their WiFi, hit add printer on my phone or laptop, press print, and it just worked with no drivers or network troubleshooting or anything.

They completely blow any consumer inkjet out of the water in ease of use, not having to install bloatware with popups telling you to buy more ink and preventing you from printing black and white when the magenta ink is "only" at 25%, printing speed, and the fact they don't outright break forever if you go 6 months without printing (where an Inkjet would often get irreparably clogged and be ruined).

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#59

I live in the Apple ecosystem and I know HP does a lot of consumer-hostile stuff but I bought my HP laser from Costco (who refuse to sell subscription printers) mostly because of it's support for AirPrint with no additional software. And it works, the quality is great, and I'm happy. Didn't have to install anything.

AirPrint isn't magic. It's just PostScript with DNS-SD bolted on top.

If you've ever had to install printer drivers and fight their bundled software/adware/spyware that comes along, *and* the huge headache of getting networked printing set up (looking at you Windows), AirPrint is magic. Especially being able to print from your phone.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#60

I live in the Apple ecosystem and I know HP does a lot of consumer-hostile stuff but I bought my HP laser from Costco (who refuse to sell subscription printers) mostly because of it's support for AirPrint with no additional software. And it works, the quality is great, and I'm happy. Didn't have to install anything.

Did you turn off the HP "DIRECT" wifi AP that screams at the top of its lungs and hogs valuable wifi spectrum? I live in a fairly low density townhouse, and 3 of my neighbors' printers are visible..

Yes, easy to turn off. This post prompted me to turn that off, I had neglected to do so last week when I set it up.

- Network, Advanced, WiFi Direct, off.

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