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Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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I live in the Apple ecosystem and I know HP does a lot of consumer-hostile stuff but I bought my HP laser from Costco (who refuse to sell subscription printers) mostly because of it's support for AirPrint with no additional software. And it works, the quality is great, and I'm happy. Didn't have to install anything.

AirPrint isn't magic. It's just PostScript with DNS-SD bolted on top.

I don't care how it works, I only care that it does work.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#22

Printing at home is so horrible. I have a printer connected to my Wifi router. It changes IP every time I reboot. When it changes IP, Windows can't find it. I can give the printer a static IP but how many people know to do this? Wifi has been around for more than 2 decades. Isn't that enough time to figure out a solution?

ZeroConf actually works pretty well as long as everything is in the same range.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#23

I live in the Apple ecosystem and I know HP does a lot of consumer-hostile stuff but I bought my HP laser from Costco (who refuse to sell subscription printers) mostly because of it's support for AirPrint with no additional software. And it works, the quality is great, and I'm happy. Didn't have to install anything.

AirPrint isn't magic. It's just PostScript with DNS-SD bolted on top.

It’s not Postscript. AirPrint supports a few different formats/PDLs including its own raster format and Postscript is notably not an option.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#24

Printing at home is so horrible. I have a printer connected to my Wifi router. It changes IP every time I reboot. When it changes IP, Windows can't find it. I can give the printer a static IP but how many people know to do this? Wifi has been around for more than 2 decades. Isn't that enough time to figure out a solution?

It could be your router giving it a new IP address, but the printer itself hopefully has a static MAC address. Check your router settings for static IP assignment, they may be under a section called DHCP. Over there you could give it a static IP address for its current MAC address EDIT: this comment no longer makes sense after the parent comment was edited. It used to be explicitly asking for help and didn't mention…

You missed the point. I wasn't asking for help on how to assign a static IP address. My point was that ordinary people shouldn't have to know what an IP address is, let alone what a static IP address is, in this day and age.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AirPrint isn't magic. It's just PostScript with DNS-SD bolted on top.

I don't care how it works, I only care that it does work.

Except when it doesn't. I've had versions of Mac OS fail with AirPrint printers (spits out pages of garbage) that required manual tweaking and setup.

The bug was in Mac OS not the printer.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

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I live in the Apple ecosystem and I know HP does a lot of consumer-hostile stuff but I bought my HP laser from Costco (who refuse to sell subscription printers) mostly because of it's support for AirPrint with no additional software. And it works, the quality is great, and I'm happy. Didn't have to install anything.

HP laser printers are not on the subscription model? I sought out a Brother laser printer specifically due to several bad experiences with lockout on HP printers.

I also have a brother printer that I specifically paid a premium for for out of box eSCL scanner support on linux (airscan). Unfortunately, the scanners still need a proprietary driver as eSCL only supports some fixed resolutions. The proprietary scanner has better/more functionality.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#28

Printing at home is so horrible. I have a printer connected to my Wifi router. It changes IP every time I reboot. When it changes IP, Windows can't find it. I can give the printer a static IP but how many people know to do this? Wifi has been around for more than 2 decades. Isn't that enough time to figure out a solution?

ZeroConf actually works pretty well as long as everything is in the same range.

Is that on a Mac? Windows doesn't seem to support it.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be your router giving it a new IP address, but the printer itself hopefully has a static MAC address. Check your router settings for static IP assignment, they may be under a section called DHCP. Over there you could give it a static IP address for its current MAC address EDIT: this comment no longer makes sense after the parent comment was edited. It used to be explicitly asking for help and didn't mention…

You missed the point. I wasn't asking for help on how to assign a static IP address. My point was that ordinary people shouldn't have to know what an IP address is, let alone what a static IP address is, in this day and age.

That's wishful thinking, imo.

If you want to have a network, someone needs to know a bit of networking. Or you need someone you can call who does.

Don't get mad at the printer for what your router is doing to its IP address. This day and age isn't as advanced as you'd like it to be, or you need a new router that does what you expect.

Re: Microsoft to kill off third-party printer drivers in Windows

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be your router giving it a new IP address, but the printer itself hopefully has a static MAC address. Check your router settings for static IP assignment, they may be under a section called DHCP. Over there you could give it a static IP address for its current MAC address EDIT: this comment no longer makes sense after the parent comment was edited. It used to be explicitly asking for help and didn't mention…

You missed the point. I wasn't asking for help on how to assign a static IP address. My point was that ordinary people shouldn't have to know what an IP address is, let alone what a static IP address is, in this day and age.

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