Live data from Hacker News

Networking for introverts

economist.com

51–60 of 122 posts

Re: Networking for introverts

#52

"Quiet Contemplation for Extroverts: A How-To Guide to Sitting the Fuck Still For an Hour" I'm fine as I am as an introvert, thank you very much. Maybe we're not the only ones who need to be more accommodating of the world?

So... in the context of career networking... Everybody should just mind their business and leave each other alone?

Nah, the mirror image of this would probably be a meetup for management type folks, with talks praising the efficacy of NOT interrupting your team when doing work requiring deep attention, let them only come to the office when it is really useful, stop doing meetings, etc.

Re: Networking for introverts

#53

"Quiet Contemplation for Extroverts: A How-To Guide to Sitting the Fuck Still For an Hour" I'm fine as I am as an introvert, thank you very much. Maybe we're not the only ones who need to be more accommodating of the world?

So... in the context of career networking... Everybody should just mind their business and leave each other alone?

"... For an hour"

Re: Networking for introverts

#54

Most of the article appears to be about what does not work. Here is the relevant part from the bottom of the page- > The real secret is to save your energy for the people who are most likely to be interesting to you. > The sweet spot in networking on LinkedIn is someone with moderately weak ties to you: connecting with a person with ten mutual friends markedly increases the probability of changing jobs compared with…

> The real secret is to save your energy for the people who are most likely to be interesting to you. I think this is the real gem. There are people who do well socially and are energized by other people. That's not me. I can do well socially, but I have a social battery - people drain me and I need to regularly be recharge by being inside my own head for a while.

It's not that anything drains me, I just can't get myself to pretend to care about strangers.

Re: Networking for introverts

#55
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you exercise different skills, your brain activity changes, yes. Doesn’t mean these are real categories. Brain activity of a tennis player will be different from the brain activity of a concert pianist.

Someone posted and deleted in response to this on how we lose neural plasticity as we age. I tried to comment in response, but it was deleted already. Since I have this written up, I'll share it here. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Yes, you can lean on the skills you have acquired and be successful. Plasticity is no longer required. But look at the many examples of people who have suffered brain damage, and yet,…

Also, the linked article above didn’t mention anything about plasticity.

Re: Networking for introverts

#56

"Quiet Contemplation for Extroverts: A How-To Guide to Sitting the Fuck Still For an Hour" I'm fine as I am as an introvert, thank you very much. Maybe we're not the only ones who need to be more accommodating of the world?

Nevertheless we live in a world where sometimes it’s people’s networking ability that allows them to be successful far more so than their skill alone would achieve.

It may not be “fair”, but if we want to succeed in what is arguably the extroverts world, we unfortunately need to play the game too (at least to an extent) or we may find ourselves overlooked.

Re: Networking for introverts

#57

"Quiet Contemplation for Extroverts: A How-To Guide to Sitting the Fuck Still For an Hour" I'm fine as I am as an introvert, thank you very much. Maybe we're not the only ones who need to be more accommodating of the world?

So... in the context of career networking... Everybody should just mind their business and leave each other alone?

The entire concept of career networking is rooted in expanding access to nepotism and is a poor substitute for an objective evaluation of merits.

With that being said, it obviously has value since nepotism won't be going away anytime soon.

What OP likely isn't aware of is the works published over the past 30+ years for managers/owners on how to relate to their probably-introverted programmer employees.

Re: Networking for introverts

#58
Don't want to awaken any sleeping dogs here, but what the author describes reminds me more of social anxiety and/or self-esteem issues than introversion.

I'm an introvert. I can sit still and not speak to anyone for weeks and be fine. Happier even. Having no-one around recharges me like nothing else. The reverse is true as well which makes me incredibly popular at parties /s.

When I was young(er), a networking event (or social event of any kind tbh) would have scared me to no end and have me act akward. I'm older now and through the grace of aging I give substantially less fucks. Suddenly these things are no longer the problem they once were. My introversion hasn't changed, in fact I think it got worse.

I have somewhat of a test for this. I think about or even just approach a random person and try to strike a conversation as authentically as I'm able. If even the thought gets me nervous, that's anxiety, not introversion. In my experience a bout of introversion-hunger will feel like "I need to space out now". Like I can't even be bothered with anxiety anymore.

Getting rid of anxiety has a massive ROI. Getting rid of introversion won't work and will probably backfire. At least, that's my experience.

Re: Networking for introverts

#59
> The researchers randomly changed the “People You May Know” recommendations algorithm that LinkedIn shows its users, so that the prevalence of weaker and stronger connections varied among people on the site. The experiment showed that weaker ties (where a pair of users had only one mutual friend, say) were more likely to lead to job applications and job moves than those where people had 25 mutual friends or more.

Was this research experiment with people's careers and livelihoods done with informed consent of human subjects?

Re: Networking for introverts

#60
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... in the context of career networking... Everybody should just mind their business and leave each other alone?

Nah, the mirror image of this would probably be a meetup for management type folks, with talks praising the efficacy of NOT interrupting your team when doing work requiring deep attention, let them only come to the office when it is really useful, stop doing meetings, etc.

Extroverted developers suffer from interrupts just as much as introverted developers, and I've been interrupted numerous times by very introverted managers. This is a matter of understanding developer workflows and uniquely severe context switching penalty-- not a difference between introverts and extroverts.
Post reply on HN