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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Microsoft probably has better data than me, but I can't imagine that that many people switch to Edge after Microsoft forcefully opens it when you try to search for a local file. Just show some fucking respect to your users, it will be worth more than the 0.003% market share you get from opening Edge when I click a pdf

Same deal when Chrome opens mailto links in gmail.com in the browser instead of my default mail client. Stuff like this made my switch to Firefox even more of a no-brainer.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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My wife’s laptop just upgraded itself to windows 11 pro form 10 pro unasked & unsolicited and all prefs were changed to microsoft traps including edge being the default. Dark patterns galore. Luckily I could revert back to the previous version.

I spent 2 hours trying to uninstall Edge unsuccessfully then decided to live with it.

You can use Chris Titus Tech's Windows Utility: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

The Tweaks section has a checkbox for removing Edge. I removed mine using that.

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All these comments about coercing Windows into some semblance of usability. After several years of not having a PC, I recently bought a new one to use Windows to play ONE game that several of my other friends play on it, and it has been extraordinarily frustrating to configure. From the on-topic charade of browser choice, to denying Microsoft's many attempts to take over several other defaults, or install Office, to…

Just out of curiosity, what is that game that convinced you to switch to a different hardware/OS? Must be the killer app.

Elder Scrolls Online. I was happily playing it after moving to Playstation a couple years ago, but my IRL friends sucked me back in. Now I'm all setup, and 2 of the 4 have stopped playing. Grrr. Maybe I'll just go back to PS.

EDIT: And before anyone suggests it, yes, I've tried it many times on macOS. On my $4000 Intel Mac with a Vega 20 GPU, it pauses so often to load textures, it's almost a slide show. It runs BETTER on a Mac WITHOUT a GPU. Even my buddy with his new M2 Studio only gets 30 FPS at medium settings, while my $700 PC gets 60 on high. If ZOS would somehow address this WIDE disparity, I'd GLADLY give up the PC, but they have officially given up on Mac.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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> You may have read stories in the tech media celebrating that Windows will finally respect the default browser setting. As someone who hasn't daily driven Windows since Windows 7 this statement is hilarious, because back then, it did respect default browser settings.

You mean the same OS where the internet settings has a (default checked) toggle box for “Tell me if Internet Explorer is not the default web browser.”?

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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My experience is the opposite. I spent 15 years on Linux desktops until finally switching to Windows for the sake of my producivity. I've seen promoted links in Win10/11, but never anything that harmed my productivity. Most importantly, the OS just fades into the background. I never think about it. Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. It became maddening eventuall…

> [Windows 10/11] fades into the background I strongly disagree with this. When I am forced to use windows, I am constantly fighting with it to not be obnoxious. It takes many seconds to do something as simple as bring up an explorer window. I can't count the number of times I have had to dig into menus to disable this or that ad panel or other bloatware. In linux, I occasionally have to figure out how something work…

super+e, clicking the explorer button? I think you're being purposefully difficult here.

I cannot list any of the bugs I have had with Windows off the top of my head, but I can with linux. Driver issues, Pulse audio randomly playing static, updates breaking my system, fractional scaling not working, I could go on.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I use Windows 10/11 daily. The number of times Edge was "forced on me": 0 The number of times Edge launched when I expected or wanted my default browser (Firefox): 0 The number of times my browser default was reset to Edge: 0

I just don't understand this outrage. I spend 90% of my time in Firefox/Chrome - I've only started using Edge lately to play with Bing "AI" Chat. I had to search for it!

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I use Windows 10/11 daily. The number of times Edge was "forced on me": 0 The number of times Edge launched when I expected or wanted my default browser (Firefox): 0 The number of times my browser default was reset to Edge: 0 I just don't understand this outrage. I spend 90% of my time in Firefox/Chrome - I've only started using Edge lately to play with Bing "AI" Chat. I had to search for it!

Are people hallucinating? If so, why? Mere prejudice?

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The usual solution from libertarian techies is to remove what little power democratic governments have and let big business be unchecked other than some “invisible hand” from a collection of individual actors who can’t scale due to psychological warfare that big companies can easily scale to. We are now at a point that billionaires openly make unilateral decisions about foreign and defence policy with little discussi…

Unfortunately it's a Catch 22, because the most influential billionaires have direct ties to Establishment politicians, supporting and manipulating them freely to their liking, including brazen election interference, in which the same Establishment players all admitted to existing not long ago, while judges and district attorneys in their respective states have also been bought out by these same billionaires in an ef…

> The bad news is, any criticism of these particular billionaires results in synthesized media campaigns crying wolf about anti-Semitism or anti-science

Who’s the billionaire you have in mind? Also remember that he also has his own self-interests and will toss you under the bus if it furthers his interests, too.

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So I'm not alone! Once worked for a Apple-only company using only Apple hardware and even their office and cloud stuff. Thought there can't possibly be a lot of those. To give Microsoft some credit, at least you can run Windows in a VM pretty seamlessly. Low bar, I know, but Apple doesn't allow you to run macOS on non-Apple hardware IIRC. Using a Windows VM for a client that has a Windows-only (for now :P) stack, and…

Mine was a cheap bastard... they gave me an old Macbook my boss had dropped from the top of a server rack. It still "worked" (with random freezes and other intermittent issues), so they thought: why not save a buck? I'm sure my experiences with that tainted my views of MacOS somewhat, but still nothing compares to having real control over your OS. In the long run, Linux always wins in that regard.

Absolutely.

Plus I think I've gained a significant chunk of my understanding-a-new-system and debugging skills from growing up fiddling with Gentoo, Linux From Scratch and what not. Now I make my money from these skills. In this day and age I'd argue a major Linux distribution is generally less hassle to get started and work with than macOS or Windows, but it's still good to know that if anything _really_ bothers me, I _can_ change it to be any way I like.

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