Does this affect Brave or will they also stripe out this nonsense?
Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads
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#212I uninstalled chrome & switched to Brave (I know about core) when I couldn't disable chrome auto update. I have firefox too.
I'd like that Vivaldi is also a great option, and the company is a legitimate employee owned cooperative. https://vivaldi.com/blog/news/alert-no-google-topics-in-viva...
Vivaldi is closed source, even worse than Chrome in privacy features: https://privacytests.org
Brave is objectively the best mainstream privacy browser.
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It's against the guidelines to be dismissive, but there really is no other response. Especially when you left read the follow-up sentence: > Offloading cognitive effort, such as reminders like these, is a great way automation can assist humanity. Does that pass for journalism? I really don't want to read the rest of the article.
I have my oral care products on subscribe and save. Automation does make my life better by offloading cognitive load. Such automation doesn’t require third party cookies but the article doesn’t make that claim. The article seems pretty reasonable to me actually. It establishes what a cookie is, then contrasts that with what Chrome is doing, then explains the tradeoffs and Google’s claims, then gives the reader option…
But it's so obviously ideologically bent against privacy that it reads more like manufacturing consent than it does "giving the reader options to make their own choice."
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1. There are services that you pay for where you are still the product - true 2. There are services that you pay for where you are not the product 3. All services that you don’t pay for you are the product. So the first step is getting people to pay for the service
Another way is to make it problematic for a commercial entity to provide high value services for free. Basically an anti-dumping law, but for digital goods.
Yes, and raise prices for everyone?
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I used Brave for awhile, but it got too crypto which made it feel scammy.
Brave gives me a strong negative gut reaction. I really doubt crypto goes well with ethics. Looking at some of Brave's past transgressions confirms it for me. Sure, you can turn it off, just like you can remove the pineapple from pizza, the pizza is still ruined though.
You don't need to turn it off, because it's off by default.
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#216> Tracking technology can arguably benefit us as well. For example, it could be helpful if an online store reminds you every three months you need a new toothbrush, or that this time last year you bought a birthday card for your mum. fuck off
And the engineers who build this too. We need to have a national conversation about common sense nerd control.
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Because they don't know if you bought it or not. They are gambling that you didn't and are trying to capture a sale for the ad buyer. Presumably that is somewhat effective since it's so common.
Amazon still re-shows toaster ads when they know for certain you've bought one. Maybe the likelihood you're buying one for someone else as a gift is higher than their guess of what else you might buy?
One explanation is that targeted ads are so bad at what they claim to be good at, that they can’t use the added information that you bought a toaster to do any better than some tiny increase in likelihood of buying a toaster if you just bought one.
As shit as showing you ads for the thing you just bought is, it may be the best ROI they can manage. Which is pretty damning for the whole enterprise.
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#218This appears to be the same as this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37427227 Top comment on that one was: Key actionable info: to fix this, go to this URL: chrome://settings/adPrivacy and turn off the toggles on each of the three subpages. Alternatively, go to this URL https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ to fix this permanently.
I use Chrome at work and Firefox on personal devices (including my Android phone). As a heavy user of both browsers, as far as I can see there is really no downside to Firefox. In fact, even though presumably there are way more engineers working on Chrome than on Firefox, I guess most of Chrome's engineering effort goes towards benefitting advertisers, not users. While Chrome seems entirely stagnant since I adopted i…
> as far as I can see there is really no downside to Firefox.
Profiles suck. Performance (specifically around video) has been ass for years. Many useful Chrome extensions don't have FF versions. Just off the top of my head.
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> fuck off Hell yes. Those benefits don't require us being stalked around our entire online lives: the online store already knows when I bought a toothbrush¹. Unless they are trying to argue that telling every retailer on the planet when I last bought a toothbrush, or other healthcare products, is a good idea?! Same for the birthday card if I bought one online. This example is even worse: potentially not just trackin…
> I might have a PI follow that writer for a bit, so I can helpfully send reminders, to illustrate how badly ill-conceived this take is… That’s not a healthy fantasy. The “following” part is especially creepy. There’s a contact the author link on the site. If you care to contact her it’s just a couple clicks away. No reason to hire a stalker. Why are you so angry at the author and not at the people who actually made…
> The “following” part is especially creepy.
I think that was the point. It's an analogy for what the article is talking about. The behavior of Chrome is legitimately creepy.
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#220If I'm using Chrome only to test how websites render in it, what are the alternatives? Use another Chromium based browser or do they have the same issues as Chrome? Use a browser testing suite such as BrowserStack? Or will using a user-agent switcher in Firefox achieve the same effect as using Chrome?
I use Brave, it's great for web development.