Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

theconversation.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 435 posts

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#151

Post by robertlagrant »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #145
xg15 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually worth reading the article to the end, because otherwise you'd be missing the amazing final paragraph: > Lastly, it’s good to remember nothing truly comes for free. Software costs money to develop. If you’re not paying towards that, then it’s likely you – or your data – are the product. We need to revolutionise how we think about our own data and what value it truly holds. Ignoring the fact that this is…

I don’t pay for bash yet I have plenty of excellent tooling in it thats free, and I’m not the product. Software can be released freely just like a poem can be. The people who develop popular software like one of the functions in bash I use for free probably aren’t hurting for work I’d imagine.

They're working, but not necessarily getting paid.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#152

Post by [deleted] »

xg15 wrote: post #115
tgv wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's against the guidelines to be dismissive, but there really is no other response. Especially when you left read the follow-up sentence: > Offloading cognitive effort, such as reminders like these, is a great way automation can assist humanity. Does that pass for journalism? I really don't want to read the rest of the article.

It's actually worth reading the article to the end, because otherwise you'd be missing the amazing final paragraph: > Lastly, it’s good to remember nothing truly comes for free. Software costs money to develop. If you’re not paying towards that, then it’s likely you – or your data – are the product. We need to revolutionise how we think about our own data and what value it truly holds. Ignoring the fact that this is…

[deleted]

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#154

Post by sneak »

dbbk wrote: post #110
ShowalkKama wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but a bunch of the internet breaks if you do that. not really, no. From my experience most stuff works fine (the thing that breaks websites the most is webgl and even then, only the few websites that really need it use it)

You would be surprised at what breaks. It also prevents local storage (not just cookies) from working at all when inside an iframe. That took me a long time at work to debug. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67645164/cross-domain-lo...

More importantly, instead of silently failing like localStorage should, the attribute on the window object is missing, causing page scripts that don't catch the exception (ie all of them) to crash and usually break the page.

I'm pretty sure Google is making disabling cookies as painful and breakage-inducing as possible to make sure people don't flip the switch.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#155

Post by sph »

arrowsmith wrote: post #88
throwaway2990 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You all voted for this.

Which major political party will stop this if I vote for them?

Lucky you, none. You just need to go to https://www.mozilla.org/firefox and follow the instructions therein.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#156

Post by asgerhb »

sh4rks wrote: post #143

Unrelated, but the other day, I searched something on DDGo on Firefox mobile in private mode, and a few hours later, I see a targeted ad related to that search. Whats the deal with that? The only extension I have installed is Ublock mobile.

If you can reliably recreate this, then you may be on to something interesting. I couldn't guess what.

Otherwise, the most likely answer is coincidence.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#157

Post by kjkjadksj »

smarkov wrote: post #45
mlnj wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consistently working as the better browser. Both Chrome and Edge are just hostile towards my browsing experience. Chrome keeps on rolling out new settings to pilfer my browsing data. Edge will just kill all of my settings to anything Microsoft wants. Arc and Firefox are working reliably at the moment but Firefox remains a stable option to come back to everytime.

> Firefox remains a stable option to come back to everytime Don't get me wrong, I've been using Firefox for the last decade and I don't intend on using anything else for the foreseeable future, but Mozilla has no idea what they're doing with Firefox nowadays. Firefox View is the most useless thing I've ever seen, that expiring "independent voices" theme picker was some weird hippie stunt[1], the latest UI redesign wh…

Firefox is perfectly customizable. You can make the tabs look however you want with a config. Want them out of the way and appear when you mouse over on the left edge? You can have it like that. You also don’t need to use any features you don’t want to use. You can even hide them entirely with a config file.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#158

Post by paint »

alexvitkov wrote: post #24

> Tracking technology can arguably benefit us as well. For example, it could be helpful if an online store reminds you every three months you need a new toothbrush, or that this time last year you bought a birthday card for your mum. fuck off

Only tangentially related, but the new hot shit i recently learned about is "conversational commerce", i.e. services that let companies spam their target markets on messengers like whatsapp in situations like the ones you describe, or when a certain product is back in stock etc..

i think it's an absolutely disgusting invasion of supposedly personal communication spaces. My ex "works" (cold messaging people on linkedin) for a startup that does this and i genuinely don't understand how otherwise lovely amazing people can throw their morals under the bus like that and willingly dedicate 40+ hours of their lives week after week to making the world a shittier place.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#159

Post by lemper »

esteth wrote: post #129
latexr wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd rather have my machine present this kind of data than have a network of unknown third-parties collaborate by sharing bits about me to build a profile. That’s a bit like saying you’d rather have cameras inside your house streaming your every move than have paparazzi at your door. In the current model, the third parties have to fight and spend resources to get an imperfect profile of you, while you can make their…

I don't think it's fair to compare what might happen in the future. In my mind the metaphor is more like "instead of having paparazzi at your door following around, you show everyone a card saying that you like dogs and video games and the steelers, and you tend to shop at big box stores out of town". I'd rather know exactly what I'm presenting, which is possible in this model, than have the paparazzi all over me fig…

> I'd rather know exactly what I'm presenting,

well, do you trust this company to only give those advertisers what you think you're presenting?

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#160

Post by screamingninja »

starbugs wrote: post #19

This appears to be the same as this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37427227 Top comment on that one was: Key actionable info: to fix this, go to this URL: chrome://settings/adPrivacy and turn off the toggles on each of the three subpages. Alternatively, go to this URL https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ to fix this permanently.

> Until you can't. The Chrome team routinely remove options from settings, usually keep them for a few months until there's no way of changing them.
Post reply on HN