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None of My Students Remember 9/11 (2021)
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#12I was on IRC at the time, on Undernet. It was in the wee hours of the morning here. Some dude came into the channel and said a plane had crashed into the World Trade Centre. I said something like "Dude, it's too low for a plane to hit it, with all those tall buildings around it", because I thought he was talking about the World Trade Centre in Melbourne AU. He clarified that he meant the one in NYC. So along with everyone else, I jumped into a hastily created temp channel dedicated to news of the event, which was filling with people faster than I'd ever seen before. Updates were scrolling up the screen super fast. I was living with my parents and siblings at the time, and I ran around and told everyone to get up, and turned on the old CRT television which weighed about 600 tons. So we all sat there watching, and then the second plane hit the other tower. It felt like it was some Hollywood BS, not a real thing. We watched people jump out and fall. It was quite difficult to believe it was even happening.
Not super relevant, but at the time, they said they had scrambled F16s and one had shot down the plane over the field in Pennsylvania to prevent another attack. Either their initial reports were wrong, or they changed the story later to create some heroes.
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#13> On 9/11, the president and his advisers were hustled onto Air Force One and into underground emergency bunkers Um, no, that's not what happened. Apparently the teacher doesn't remember either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pet_Goat
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#15I was on IRC at the time, on Undernet. It was in the wee hours of the morning here. Some dude came into the channel and said a plane had crashed into the World Trade Centre. I said something like "Dude, it's too low for a plane to hit it, with all those tall buildings around it", because I thought he was talking about the World Trade Centre in Melbourne AU. He clarified that he meant the one in NYC. So along with eve…
The first reports were bogus. I remember the first articles I read back then were saying a Cessna had hit one tower, and it sounded like a weird accident. Later, articles about the second plane came in and it was still not clear that they were big airliners. Then things got busy because I was working in web hosting and we had one or two major French newspapers web sites in our datacenter, and they couldn't handle the load.
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#16I was on IRC at the time, on Undernet. It was in the wee hours of the morning here. Some dude came into the channel and said a plane had crashed into the World Trade Centre. I said something like "Dude, it's too low for a plane to hit it, with all those tall buildings around it", because I thought he was talking about the World Trade Centre in Melbourne AU. He clarified that he meant the one in NYC. So along with eve…
> Not super relevant, but at the time, they said they had scrambled F16s and one had shot down the plane over the field in Pennsylvania to prevent another attack. Either their initial reports were wrong, or they changed the story later to create some heroes.
This YouTube channel is great by the way.
The first wave was a couple of F-15s three F-16s. That flight 93 was shot down by a South Dakota Air National Guard F-16 pilot is false. It's a coincidence that the pilot was heading west of the first attacks to pick up an FAA official to assist with the investigation in New York.
All the fighters at the time were either still on the ground or in a holding pattern off the east coast. The FAA was slow enough to relay details that every launch was already too late to respond to their target.
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#17> On 9/11, the president and his advisers were hustled onto Air Force One and into underground emergency bunkers Um, no, that's not what happened. Apparently the teacher doesn't remember either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pet_Goat
> According to Bill Sammon's book Fighting Back, Bush's gaze flitted about the room—the children, the press, the floor, his staff—while his mind raced about everything he did not yet know.
It seems quite un-presidential to think "Let me just sit here for another 10 minutes with these kids so they don't panic."... He (with 22 years of hindsight) could've just said "I'm sorry kids, something's come up that need my attention, so I'm going to have to go now.". Of course he didn't have any power to actually alter anything at that very moment (the attacks were basically done), but it was during such a fog of war that he/his team wouldn't have known yet that they were powerless...
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#18How old are your students? Late bloomers at college? Otherwise it is hardly a surprise that school students who were not born yet do not remember it. Does the author remember the Munich Olympics? The moon landing? The invasion of Poland? Archduke Ferdinand being assassinated?
[EDIT] Oh I see she teaches at a college about it. No wonder she's so appalled at the thought it is rapidly becoming history.
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#19I was on IRC at the time, on Undernet. It was in the wee hours of the morning here. Some dude came into the channel and said a plane had crashed into the World Trade Centre. I said something like "Dude, it's too low for a plane to hit it, with all those tall buildings around it", because I thought he was talking about the World Trade Centre in Melbourne AU. He clarified that he meant the one in NYC. So along with eve…
> Not super relevant, but at the time, they said they had scrambled F16s and one had shot down the plane over the field in Pennsylvania to prevent another attack. Either their initial reports were wrong, or they changed the story later to create some heroes. https://youtu.be/69uSD1S14RI This YouTube channel is great by the way. The first wave was a couple of F-15s three F-16s. That flight 93 was shot down by a South…
I watched the whole thing live. I clearly remember a passenger plane being followed by a couple of fighters. It was filmed by a civilian on the ground. After some time, there was the news about a passenger plane that crashed somewhere.
I couldn't find that footage anymore.
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#20> On 9/11, the president and his advisers were hustled onto Air Force One and into underground emergency bunkers Um, no, that's not what happened. Apparently the teacher doesn't remember either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pet_Goat
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> What is your thought process for thinking the president was not hustled onto air force one? He just stayed wherever he was at.... For how long?
There is an actual video recording of George W. Bush sitting in the classroom with the kids when the 9/11 attacks occurred. Watch it for yourself, in Michael Moore's documentary Fahrenheit 9/11: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11
After that, you can come back here and apologize for disparaging me. Or you can apologize now...