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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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My wife’s laptop just upgraded itself to windows 11 pro form 10 pro unasked & unsolicited and all prefs were changed to microsoft traps including edge being the default. Dark patterns galore. Luckily I could revert back to the previous version.

I spent 2 hours trying to uninstall Edge unsuccessfully then decided to live with it.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Edge is still Blink+V8. Just test Chromium or Brave & forget about Edge.

That’s not exactly true, there’s a bunch of ancillary code too. For example, image handling, where Edge doesn’t support AVIF: https://caniuse.com/avif

But that's (+ AV1) about it. I wouldn't install edge just to test whether there are any files encoded with these codecs. (unless there are a LOT of media encoded in different ways e.g. youtube)

Just test on chrome and keep in mind to avoid AVIF

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Edge is effectively chrome under the hood. It’s not doing much for browser diversity

Exactly. If anything Edge, Brave and other Chromium browsers gives a false sense of healthy competition.

I view Brave as very healthy competition to Chrome and Edge. Yes, it's based on Chromium. But it disables the many egregious privacy violations, as well as other bad things.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I go along with whatever our employer policies are and don’t even have much say in for example when windows defender agressively scans and scans and scans slowing my machine to a crawl when Im building a Visual Studio project. It’s infuriating at times but it ain’t on my dime, I try to go along with the program, go for a coffee or walk when building. From minutes it went to 1/4 or 1/3 hours. Good job Microsoft, you’r…

W11 forces Edge as default after every restart? How is that at all tolerated?

They do not give a damn about the user but justify themelves to the user with a corporate slogan: “we care about your experience …” but it’s mostly to a hostage or ignorant userbase.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I want the Chrome to stop being the majority shareholder of the market. But not like this.

Edge is effectively chrome under the hood. It’s not doing much for browser diversity

Chrome does its own stuff. Lately, they added a tracking different from cookies, something that Brave has said they won't be adding. I want the market to segregate at every level.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

#267

My wife’s laptop just upgraded itself to windows 11 pro form 10 pro unasked & unsolicited and all prefs were changed to microsoft traps including edge being the default. Dark patterns galore. Luckily I could revert back to the previous version.

Good husbands don't let their wives use Windows.

She needs it for some software at work so I decrapified as much as I could and decided to go along but it’s a never ending battle with Microsoft’s agressive force. I wouldn’t force her with Linux and Mac is not something I am familiar with.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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> Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. I usually try to avoid discussions of the OS, since it's such a terribly boring topic. However, this is quite an extraordinary claim that is made without any details. Perhaps you could elaborate. As someone that has used various Linux distros for nearly twenty years, I don't think I could construct a scenario in which someone…

I believe it. I've used linux desktops for 20 years also and command line is definitely a must on a daily basis. Ive also used Windows and agree that it just fades into background. Windows 10/11 definitely less paiinful on the desktop. These days with better integration with and tools for Linux cli, Windows is definitely my preferred gui productivity environment. Many Linux fans don't know better or won't admit it be…

>I've used linux desktops for 20 years also and command line is definitely a must on a daily basis.

What were you using if I may ask? I use manjaro with plasma and.... idk I really don't have to use the commandline much if at all when i'm not coding. Last time I was forced to was a few months ago in fact with an old niche wifi dongle that didn't work without some tinkering but this now works out of the box as well.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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That’s not exactly true, there’s a bunch of ancillary code too. For example, image handling, where Edge doesn’t support AVIF: https://caniuse.com/avif

But that's (+ AV1) about it. I wouldn't install edge just to test whether there are any files encoded with these codecs. (unless there are a LOT of media encoded in different ways e.g. youtube) Just test on chrome and keep in mind to avoid AVIF

…Which you should be using the picture element or image() to fall all the way back to PNG or JPEG in most scenarios anyhow. New & improved formats like JPEG-XL should be considered ‘enhancements’ rather than relied on.
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