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Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I am shocked a company with a very sketchy history with repeated violation with anti trust related to internet browsers. But to be serious, I wonder what sketchy nonsense Microsoft would do if they could only compete on Linux or MacOS. On steam and other stores they force you to login into Xbox services.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Once Ubuntu breaks: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/ It's a gaming distro built on top of Fedora Silverblue, making it stable as heck while having up-to-date official steam, and other goodies. Works on Deck too, if you want that.

Only works with steam deck or amd GPUs?

No, there's also the bazzite-nvidia variant if that's the GPU you got. It's fairly easy to setup. Once you start bazizte ISO you're given a choice of the variant you want/need.

I myself run the nvidia variant on my new desktop and the OOB experience has been amazing.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I use Edge on my laptop (because of Bing Chat, easy to use on Edge, without faffing around on OpenAI), and Microsoft still won't stop trying to push it on me every once in a while.

(on windows 10, because of TPM1.2, small blessings)

Like chill, you already got me. I am not going to remove Chrome and Firefox, but you are the default browser already and I use Bing too, now go away.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I used a debloater on my windows 11 laptop which also removed edge. No big deal since Firefox is my browser if choice, but I'm a Web developer and need to test my apps in different browsers. I've tried to install edge multiple times, but I can never get it to work.

Honestly, as much as I avoid it as a primary browser, I think all OSes should have a default browser that one could use as a preinstalled webview. Some way to avoid having to ship a 100 MB electron with simple web apps.

I don't think web apps are ideal, but having edge installed and available as a native webview is relevant.

I don't think this dream works yet, I don't think one can actually make THESE kinds of apps without shipping electron yet, but that should definitely be an option. I have no problem with edge used as a random weview in random apps. I only hate it when edge is opened as a dedicated browser.

I don't think an OS API to use Firefox as a webview is a reasonable ask :(.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…

Windows is effectively also the reason for the modular PC platform to exist. If peak Windows also means peak modular hardware, it's a dim future with closed Apple and Android-style hardware. Nothing's composable, OS is bound to the specific piece of hardware.

Intel just announced that they will be putting ram on the package with their next gen CPUs...

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I remember when we first found out that IE could be "uninstalled" from Windows 7 (it was a checkbox in an early build's programs list that let you have it removed, basically). Interesting seeing the about-face over a decade later. --- for those not aware, Rafael's almost a two decade long authority on the topic of smashing Windows internals to bits to see how it all works.

I remember when we first found out that IE could be uninstalled from Windows 98 and thus what eventually lead the EU to mandate Microsoft give Windows users a choice of 3rd party browsers. Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now.

>Back then businesses were a lot more scared of the repercussions of anti-competitive behaviour than they are now.

Reasonably, too. Governments seem reluctant to actually regulate anti-competitive behavior these days, especially from tech giants. I think it must be a kind of technological "too big to fail".

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I’m using Windows 11 and nothing forces open Edge on my machine. Every link opens in Brave like I told it to.

What happens when you press Win, type a query, then press enter, quickly? In Win 10 that opens a Bing search in Edge for me, no matter what settings I try. Very annoying when I type "(Win)chr(enter)" to open Chrome and get a search instead. If I do it slow it will sometimes work. I haven't tried it on Win 11 because that was what caused me to drop Windows altogether. (Everyone has their straw).

> What happens when you press Win, type a query, then press enter, quickly?

Also on Win 10. I get, in the start menu, "no results for ". I know I turned of web searching when installing, but it's been so long I might have used registry keys[1].

[1]: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to...

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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My 8 year old son inherited an old laptop this week, that was too slow to consider installing Win 11, so I ended up loading it with XUbuntu. The first thing I did was actually to install Edge, because that makes it possible to monitor his web browsing using MS Parental Controls. I actually think it's a good browser, certainly better than Chrome (too bloated) or Firefox (too buggy). I'll never understand HNs relentles…

What are these bugs that people encounter that often in Firefox? I've been using using Firefox on Linux and Mac for a long time now and I'm yet to see any bug(a rare occurrence) that is a show stopper(for me atleast).

I guess the "best viewed with" and "please use the last version of chrome" banners preventing you from logging in some services could be seen as a bug from normal users.
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