Looks like they really learned a lot from that $613M EU fine. I hope they double it next time. How much exactly do they make from forcing IE down users throats? Apparently enough to justify this behavior given the past penalties, just mind blowing that they’re able to continue to do this and just pay fines. You’d think there’d be more backlash at the board level to this type of behavior.
Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#132Glad to see someone else chasing this down, and not surprised this is still not yet reproducible.
Paul Thurrott and I were also scratching our heads with this one on August 25. After failing to reproduce the behavior, he wrote up our collective experience [1] the next day. We chalked it up to yet another Windows Insider screw up, marked it as an unsolved case, and moved on.
I certainly hope the change eventually makes it into the OS before the Windows 11 "23H2" release is finalized (imminent).
[1] https://www.thurrott.com/paul/287711/scaling-back-the-terrib... (pay-walled)
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#133Glad I switched to ReviOS and don’t have to deal with these shenanigans. https://revi.cc/
Interesting, reminds me a bit of 98lite which did something similar for windows 98.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#134I want the Chrome to stop being the majority shareholder of the market. But not like this.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#135I don't care for edge for the most part, but there is actually one integration with edge that I have come to like. When I click on an email link inside outlook, edge opens the link, and also displays a sidebar which displays the email. Super handy IMO. Somehow we need to find a balance that allows vendors to tightly integrate their apps but prevent abusing this. MS is everyone's favorite whipping boy, but I fear what…
Ubuntu is very usable for a desktop OS.
Except they too pushed ads (ubuntu advantage) and snap and other annoying stuff.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#136I want the Chrome to stop being the majority shareholder of the market. But not like this.
Edge is effectively chrome under the hood. It’s not doing much for browser diversity
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#137I used a debloater on my windows 11 laptop which also removed edge. No big deal since Firefox is my browser if choice, but I'm a Web developer and need to test my apps in different browsers. I've tried to install edge multiple times, but I can never get it to work.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
My experience is the opposite. I spent 15 years on Linux desktops until finally switching to Windows for the sake of my producivity. I've seen promoted links in Win10/11, but never anything that harmed my productivity. Most importantly, the OS just fades into the background. I never think about it. Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. It became maddening eventuall…
> Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. It became maddening eventually. Really? What kind of things do you have to google for Linux to work these days? The opposite is true for me in Windows, I am not about to relearn how to use the Windows terminal.
In my personal experience it's usually random little things that technically work but not quite right, and occasionally it's stuff that's just outright broken.
There's also been a fair amount of googling for how to set up X in Linux to do Y only to find a trail of half-functional or abandoned packages. Getting global menus set up in your DE of choice for example takes a surprising amount of twiddling and even at its best doesn't work with a lot of software. Getting everything functioning as expected with a minimal WM setup is also a surprising amount of work (e.g. laptop volume keys not working if some daemon isn't running). Admittedly it's not as bad if all your want is a Win9x-type or iPad-type desktop.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#139Glad to see someone else chasing this down, and not surprised this is still not yet reproducible. Paul Thurrott and I were also scratching our heads with this one on August 25. After failing to reproduce the behavior, he wrote up our collective experience [1] the next day. We chalked it up to yet another Windows Insider screw up, marked it as an unsolved case, and moved on. I certainly hope the change eventually make…
I remember when we first found out that IE could be "uninstalled" from Windows 7 (it was a checkbox in an early build's programs list that let you have it removed, basically).
Interesting seeing the about-face over a decade later.
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for those not aware, Rafael's almost a two decade long authority on the topic of smashing Windows internals to bits to see how it all works.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#140Who forced you to use Microsoft (at home).
Can you actually switch the default browser with group policy? What if your team only has the bandwidth to support a couple browsers, and your users say they want Chrome and Firefox?
If this is an honest question, then Microsoft's answer is that you use Intune to push the Chrome & Edge settings (via the same policy node, since they're the same engine, they just report their spying to different corporations) and import an ADMX for Firefox policy. That's two browsers worth of policy that you're supporting, but it actually handles three bits of software.