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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Sad you didn't see Linux as a better alternative to OSX. I credit it with making me at least 10% more productive over the twenty years I've used it, partly because it is stable and fast, but mostly because it isn't trying to sell me stuff while I work.

My experience is the opposite. I spent 15 years on Linux desktops until finally switching to Windows for the sake of my producivity. I've seen promoted links in Win10/11, but never anything that harmed my productivity. Most importantly, the OS just fades into the background. I never think about it. Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. It became maddening eventuall…

I work on Linux and game on Windows (for the moment). I switched to Linux around 12 years ago, after Entity Framework was the last straw developing .Net stuff.

Configuring Linux is fun, so yes, I've done a reasonable amount of playing around with it. But I chose this. There was always the option of picking a "batteries included" distro and just running that with no playing around. I've never encountered a situation where I had to open a terminal to fix or change something that I didn't cause.

Windows repeatedly gets in my face about updates, often at inconvenient times. It's just generally a worse experience, in part because it seems so condescending compared to Linux. The tone is always "are you sure you want to do this?", "these are super-advanced settings that we don't think you should be messing with", and so on. I'm always swearing at the bloody thing to just get out of my way.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Meh. I just use text files and emacs. And I hacked sc to use emacs key bindings for spreadsheets. It's far from an ideal system, but it works for me. Simplicity can be nice.

It's like saying I'm having engine trouble on my big rig, and you telling me about how you upgraded your tennis shoes.

Don't ask the question if you don't want the answer. And sheesh, dude, how many alts do you have?

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Microsoft is also forcing office 365 support to end on windows servers in 2025/2026. It's going to be a blood bath if you run on prem.

Meh. I just use text files and emacs. And I hacked sc to use emacs key bindings for spreadsheets. It's far from an ideal system, but it works for me. Simplicity can be nice.

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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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My experience is the opposite. I spent 15 years on Linux desktops until finally switching to Windows for the sake of my producivity. I've seen promoted links in Win10/11, but never anything that harmed my productivity. Most importantly, the OS just fades into the background. I never think about it. Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. It became maddening eventuall…

> Linux required almost-daily googling and opening up a terminal to fix or change something. I usually try to avoid discussions of the OS, since it's such a terribly boring topic. However, this is quite an extraordinary claim that is made without any details. Perhaps you could elaborate. As someone that has used various Linux distros for nearly twenty years, I don't think I could construct a scenario in which someone…

I believe it. I've used linux desktops for 20 years also and command line is definitely a must on a daily basis. Ive also used Windows and agree that it just fades into background. Windows 10/11 definitely less paiinful on the desktop. These days with better integration with and tools for Linux cli, Windows is definitely my preferred gui productivity environment. Many Linux fans don't know better or won't admit it because hate tends to blind.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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And they only force the engine on iOS, not Mac OS, as far as I know.

Yes, on MacOS you can use whatever browser you like, engine and all, while being unmolested for favoring something not-Safari. That’s why, after a lifetime of being a Windows user, my most recent PC purchase was a MacBook Air. I would prefer to use Linux, but where I’m at in my life, I just want something that works relatively well out of the box, and I use some software that won’t run on Linux.

There are still ads for Safari if you use something else. MacOS will pop up a notification recommending Safari for battery savings.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Glad I switched to ReviOS and don’t have to deal with these shenanigans. https://revi.cc/

I've been out of the Windows world for years, but seeing a lot of games are now available on Linux, and drivers, why not build a Linux gaming PC? I mean what else would you need a PC with Windows for? This ReviOS stuff has all the smoke signals of too good to be true .

I want less hassle, not more.

Linux still has a very long way to go in gaming - some things still require a bunch of tweaking, some games suffer from poor frame rates or just plain don’t work at all. Also I vastly prefer the windows desktop experience to any Linux distribution I’ve tried over the years.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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Glad I switched to ReviOS and don’t have to deal with these shenanigans. https://revi.cc/

So what is this, exactly? I download this, pay for Windows, use the Windows activation key with ReviOS, and I can get Windows 11 without spy-and-bloat ware? And everything works? All my hardware, all my apps?

Yes to all of your questions, at least in my experience.

Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users

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I'm surprised no one has brought up United States v. Microsoft yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....

They were successfully sued for favoring their browser over others, and faced being broken up. Though their actions now are not as egregious as those actions 25 years ago, it's obvious that no lesson has been learned.

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