I’m using Windows 11 and nothing forces open Edge on my machine. Every link opens in Brave like I told it to.
Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#62Edge is insidious too, from a privacy stand point. There are literally dozens of settings that effectively send "tracking" data to Microsoft from Edge. All of the sync, shopping, points, url protection, etc. settings all effectively send data to Microsoft for evaluation. And they automatically sign you into your Edge profile (from your Windows profile). Ugh. I get that HTML has taken over the world and that most of O…
Edge was even automatically sending every image URL you viewed to their servers to "enhance" the images via the "Enhance images in Microsoft Edge" setting, which was on by default. It seems like this has since been removed, but what kind of crazy decision is that?
A literal MITM attack on by default. How that made it past legal we’ll never know.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#63Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…
They really need to fire whoever keeps ramming non-sequitur rewards stuff into the windows product. I have still don't understand what the rewards are for, despite having spent inordinate amount of time removing them from my windows machines, but it's bizarre that some product manager gets to piss a convoluted frequent flier miles scheme all over microsoft's premier product. That's akin to Ferrari covering their very…
Most "rewards" programs (including for grocery stores) are to allow payment method-based tracking.
Right now it's illegal to track users/customers based on payment method. This is more than just an upsell.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#64the new version still aggressively prompts you with a captive full-screen experience on start-up IMHO that is the peak of user-hostile behaviour. The urge to pull the power cord or hit the reset button when I encounter things like that is very hard to resist because of how insulting it feels, but I do wonder if most of the user population have already been beaten into submission and consider it only a minor annoyance…
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#65Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…
They really need to fire whoever keeps ramming non-sequitur rewards stuff into the windows product. I have still don't understand what the rewards are for, despite having spent inordinate amount of time removing them from my windows machines, but it's bizarre that some product manager gets to piss a convoluted frequent flier miles scheme all over microsoft's premier product. That's akin to Ferrari covering their very…
> That's akin to Ferrari covering their very exclusive cars with promo stickers hawking those ferrari licensed asus laptops.
No it's not, because Windows is not a "premium" or "exclusive" product, at all. It's the textbook example of a mass market product. There are (far) more Windows installations than there are cars in the world. The average Windows user is almost indistinguishable from the average human. And the monetization strategies reflect that.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#66Smells like typical knee jerk reaction for a product that doesn't perform to a vp's expectations. PM's asked to do something about it, and between making the product better to attract users, or implementing defaults and such to force it on them, they choose the expedient.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#67Who forced you to use Microsoft (at home).
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#68Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#69Edge is insidious too, from a privacy stand point. There are literally dozens of settings that effectively send "tracking" data to Microsoft from Edge. All of the sync, shopping, points, url protection, etc. settings all effectively send data to Microsoft for evaluation. And they automatically sign you into your Edge profile (from your Windows profile). Ugh. I get that HTML has taken over the world and that most of O…
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#70Smells like typical knee jerk reaction for a product that doesn't perform to a vp's expectations. PM's asked to do something about it, and between making the product better to attract users, or implementing defaults and such to force it on them, they choose the expedient.
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