Knightmare: A DevOps Cautionary Tale (2014)

Post by manicennui » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

ledauphin wrote: post #18

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #17

I'm not sure how automated deployments would have solved this problem. In fact, if anything, it would have magnified the impact and fallout of the problem. Substitute "a developer forgot to upload the code to one of the servers" for "the deployment agent errored while downloading the new binary/code onto the server and a bug in the agent prevented the error from being surfaced." Now you have the same failure mode, an…

The blame here may indeed lie with whoever decided that reusing an old flag was a good idea. As anyone who has been in software development for any time can attest, this decision was not necessarily - and perhaps not even likely - made by a "developer."

Post by mijoharas » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

ledauphin wrote: post #18

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #17

I'm not sure how automated deployments would have solved this problem. In fact, if anything, it would have magnified the impact and fallout of the problem. Substitute "a developer forgot to upload the code to one of the servers" for "the deployment agent errored while downloading the new binary/code onto the server and a bug in the agent prevented the error from being surfaced." Now you have the same failure mode, an…

The blame here may indeed lie with whoever decided that reusing an old flag was a good idea. As anyone who has been in software development for any time can attest, this decision was not necessarily - and perhaps not even likely - made by a "developer."

Post by kaashif » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:55 PM UTC

m_0x wrote: post #93

jonplackett wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing I was surprised about is that they survived! After all that they still got a $400 million cash bailout!

It wasn't a bailout, it was investment money. Bailout could imply government throwing a lifeguard

Post by rwmj » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 9:55 PM UTC

hyperhopper wrote: post #15

Yes, the deployment practices were bad, but they still would have had an issue even with proper practices. The real issue was re-using an old flag. That should have never been thought of or approved.

Post by leoqa » Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 10:00 PM UTC

kaashif wrote: post #105

m_0x wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't a bailout, it was investment money. Bailout could imply government throwing a lifeguard

> It wasn't a bailout, it was investment money. Almost all bailouts are investments, whether it's a government or private bailout. The investments are questionable sometimes, but they're still investments.