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Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by moffkalast »

badtension wrote: post #7

> It was the hottest August on record – by a large margin – and the second hottest ever month after July 2023, according to the Copernicus Climate Change Service ERA 5 dataset. August as a whole is estimated to have been around 1.5°C warmer than the preindustrial average for 1850-1900, according to the C3S monthly climate bulletin. Thinking about getting to 1.5 C averaged over the planet is surreal and we are still 3…

The more you think about it the more it becomes plainly obvious how unfathomably screwed we genuinely are.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by Jtsummers »

mindcandy wrote: post #41
IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read what you wrote several times and I still don't understand what your point is. Can you please elaborate?

eschelon said that we are in an ice age and multiple people asked “how can you call this an ice age?” I either didn’t see the linked reference or it wasn’t there when I read eschelon’s comment. Either way, I’ve seen the Little Ice Age come up enough lately to be extremely irritating. So, I knee-jerked the rebuttal. Now I think eschelon was actually asking if we are overriding the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quate…

> I either didn't see the linked reference or it wasn't there when I read eschelon's comment.

It wasn't there. echelon added the references later, presumably en lieu of responding to everyone. Everything below the -- is new.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by markus_zhang »

How is the metric measured? I read https://climate.copernicus.eu/summer-2023-hottest-record but didn't get a good idea. Maybe I missed something.

Reason I ask is because strangely we got a very cool summer for the previous 3 months in Eastern Canada. But that's part of earth so I'm asking about the method, how the weight is distributed, etc.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

mindcandy wrote: post #41
IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read what you wrote several times and I still don't understand what your point is. Can you please elaborate?

eschelon said that we are in an ice age and multiple people asked “how can you call this an ice age?” I either didn’t see the linked reference or it wasn’t there when I read eschelon’s comment. Either way, I’ve seen the Little Ice Age come up enough lately to be extremely irritating. So, I knee-jerked the rebuttal. Now I think eschelon was actually asking if we are overriding the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quate…

Thank you for the honesty

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by [deleted] »

echelon wrote: post #4

We're technically still in an ice age [1]. How far does this need to go to reach the end of that ice age [2]? The Cretaceous period was over ten degrees warmer than our current period [3,4,5]. It supported a lot (though much different) biodiversity. How long would it take us to push into these temperature ranges? And how long to exceed them? How much species diversity will we lose at each half degree increment from t…

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Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

rc_mob wrote: post #58

Apparently still not hot enough that anyone is power is doing any large changes

Elections are every roughly every half decade in most of the world, right? I think the leaders know that we won't panic about our climate changing over that time span. What do we call the climate change equivalent of an Overton window?

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by gmuslera »

Seasons, global climate related cycles like El Niño, unpredictable weather and so on push temperatures up and down, eventually it will get colder next winter.

But the complex system that is the planet have a lot of tipping points, that once reached things will go increasingly worse with no turning back.

I'm not sure if we didn't reach that stage already, or if this kind of events will give us the extra push to cross the border. That is why is dangerous to keep emitting even if they are not predicted to reach some milestone for some years still, the system becomes fragile and ready to break down with small changes.

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #16
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #5

>If the C3S dataset only currently starts in 1979, how can you then provide temperatures relating to the pre-industrial era? >In order to relate global mean temperature derived from the C3S dataset (ERA5) to the pre-industrial era, we use the estimate that the 1981-2010 reference period is approximately 0.69°C and that the 1991-2020 reference period is approximately 0.88°C warmer than the period 1850-1900, the time p…

Honestly, at this point I'm beyond caring much what stuff sounds like "to a skeptic". The past 15 or so years have proven to me that "skeptics" can believe whatever TF they want, all logic and and reason be damned, as long as there is a snazzy YouTube video pointing out how it's all a CoNSp1RacY by the Secret Global Elite. I'm done with trying to convince people who have made it extremely adamant that they aren't wil…

Sure, there are some people who are not persuadable no matter what. But there are other people who are not crazy but who see stuff like this and have legitimate doubts.

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

BurningFrog wrote: post #56
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Someone needs to figure out large scale injection of SO2 to the stratosphere. Don't wait for permission, just do it! I wonder if a hundred years ago someone said "Someone needs to introduce the cane toad to Australia to reduce the beetle population! Don't wait for permission, just do it!". Not the exact same thing, sure, but we are terrible at predicting side effects.

The effects of SO2 to the stratosphere are well known and understood, because volcanoes occasionally do just that. Without asking for permission.

In the same volumes and in the same way as we would be doing it?

Re: Earth had hottest 3-months on record; unprecedented sea temps & extreme weather

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Post by rc_mob »

wredue wrote: post #30
mindcandy wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Climate change deniers tell each other we are coming out of The Little Ice Age that started in 1200AD. Which is technically correct. What they don’t tell each other is that “Little” is an understatement and we shot way past the prior “Medieval Warm Period” long ago and are only accelerating. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age#/media/File%3...

I just checked on them a few days ago. Their current messaging is back to: “Climate change is a hoax for science grants and political power”

Many issues over humanity it has been the case that someone lied for power.

Insane that these idiots picked the one time a problem is actually really real as the time they decided to call out the tactic.

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