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Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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I work in a Corporate where we have lots of "strategy" teams and PPTs flying around. What I learned is that PPT are more than a presentation format in this culture, they are a signaling tool: • something that is "just" an email, or "just" something somebody said in a meeting doesn't carry much weight in Corporates • .. but if you put it in a PPT with some graphics, it signals you've thought about it, and probably had…

As a tech weirdo I still think PPTs are the best way to convey concepts. You can mix bullet points with images and video and have everything be progressively revealed exactly when you explain it. I can‘t even think of an alternative to this other than adhoc whiteboard drawings which can‘t match PPTs on any axis except if you‘re just (collaboratively) developing an idea/concept

I usually just scroll up and down a formatted document

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As a tech weirdo I still think PPTs are the best way to convey concepts. You can mix bullet points with images and video and have everything be progressively revealed exactly when you explain it. I can‘t even think of an alternative to this other than adhoc whiteboard drawings which can‘t match PPTs on any axis except if you‘re just (collaboratively) developing an idea/concept

Video is usually more effective for asynchronous presentations. Powerpoint is great for spoken presentations where everyone is in the same room. But they generally suck as summary reports. For thinking and analysis word docs are superior. For asynchronous presentation video is superior. Video allows you to control the timing and framing in a way that a slide deck cannot. The main downside to videos is that they are h…

Books beat them all imho :)

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https://www.computerworld.com/article/2468895/u-s--army-disc... You aren’t the only one. :) I always find it fascinating and terrifying thinking about how PowerPoint may be crippling people in charge of things like nuclear weapons.

There's past evidence of that. Some link the 2003 Columbia disaster to a slide-based presentation format with insufficient/unclear information. https://mcdreeamiemusings.com/blog/2019/4/13/gsux1h6bnt8lqjd...

Jesus Christ. This outdoes the hilarity/horror I heard when someone got contracted to implement a battle management system in Microsoft Office.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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As a tech weirdo I still think PPTs are the best way to convey concepts. You can mix bullet points with images and video and have everything be progressively revealed exactly when you explain it. I can‘t even think of an alternative to this other than adhoc whiteboard drawings which can‘t match PPTs on any axis except if you‘re just (collaboratively) developing an idea/concept

On the other hand, there's a good reason that bullet points aren't how formal communication is actually done, which is that they're terrible for actually doing the job of conveying information. For that, you need sentences in paragraphs, and PPT can't really do that. The best option is probably just an html doc — mix text (real text, not bullet points) with whatever media you want. Can be viewed on every device in th…

> On the other hand, there's a good reason that bullet points aren't how formal communication is actually done …

You clearly have not met my grad school classmates who used PPTs to lead seminars, but used slides as their full-sentence speaking notes.

Slideshow presentations work, but execution is key.

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Dennis Austin dies at 76. * Born in Pittsburgh, studied engineering at the University of Virginia * Collaborated with Robert Gaskins at Forethought to create PowerPoint * Forethought acquired by Microsoft * By 1993, PowerPoint generating more than $100 million in sales * Product is widely used, but controversial and target of jokes > Mr. Austin and Gaskins acknowledged the complaints, but thought they were unfairly a…

Robert Gaskins wrote an interesting book on the development of Powerpoint and the collaboration with Apple and Microsoft.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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A strange legacy. Most of the management in my company cannot digest even simple information if it’s not on PowerPoint slides. Even when it is on preparing PowerPoint slides, text heavy slides are a big no no. Some days, more time is spent on PowerPoint slides than writing code, or actually engineering. We jokingly call presentation prep work as getting ready to push the PowerPoint to prod.

This is literally their job. Implying that they “cannot digest even simple information” is almost certainly a misrepresentation. ICs will naively paint ideal management as simply “master craftspeople that get usually paid more than me”, and when management doesn’t meet those expectations, they’re dunked on because they’re fish that can’t climb trees. Management are often there to contextualise and decide. It’s not th…

I’ve heard multiple folks at a big 3 management consulting firm—and not the green recent-grad meat, I wasn’t interacting with a team on an engagement—state the same thing, in terms that implied even less intellectual capacity or ability on the part of the average C-suiter than that post did.

It’s not just “ICs” getting this impression.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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powerpoint is one of those things that most people don’t think about nowadays, but before presentation software, people had to carry printouts, or slide decks for projectors, maybe laminated sheets for overhead projectors. PowerPoint has saved people a huge amount of work.

> PowerPoint has saved people a huge amount of work. Probably not. The fact that making presentations got easier just caused many more (often unnecessary) presentations in my experience. So at the end of the day, people spend the same amount of work without getting more results.

Right. People didn’t assemble a presentation deck back then, just to mail it to someone for them to look at on their own.

It’s also taken the place of the business letter and some other formerly-common office document formats. I’m not convinced it’s saving time, just creating more junk. Which is how I feel about a lot of application of tech, actually—I suspect huge productivity gains in some narrow cases mask that most tech use is somewhere between a lot worse and only slightly better than whatever it replaced.

Re: Dennis Austin, developer of PowerPoint, has died

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I work in a Corporate where we have lots of "strategy" teams and PPTs flying around. What I learned is that PPT are more than a presentation format in this culture, they are a signaling tool: • something that is "just" an email, or "just" something somebody said in a meeting doesn't carry much weight in Corporates • .. but if you put it in a PPT with some graphics, it signals you've thought about it, and probably had…

And ppt is the main reason why people stop doing any work and instead prepare powerpoints all day long for the next reviews or meetings

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I work in a Corporate where we have lots of "strategy" teams and PPTs flying around. What I learned is that PPT are more than a presentation format in this culture, they are a signaling tool: • something that is "just" an email, or "just" something somebody said in a meeting doesn't carry much weight in Corporates • .. but if you put it in a PPT with some graphics, it signals you've thought about it, and probably had…

As a tech weirdo I still think PPTs are the best way to convey concepts. You can mix bullet points with images and video and have everything be progressively revealed exactly when you explain it. I can‘t even think of an alternative to this other than adhoc whiteboard drawings which can‘t match PPTs on any axis except if you‘re just (collaboratively) developing an idea/concept

> I still think PPTs are the best way to convey concepts.

Man I wonder how humanity was able to function with concepts before the PPT format was born. Surely this resulted in an explosion of productivity?

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