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I believe companies should be forced to pay H1B visa employees the top rate that they have for that job position (actual top rate paid to citizens and green card holders). If the theory is that they're desperate for these skills because people here don't have them, then companies should be more than willing to pay a premium to get those people they so desperately need.
I mean, no kidding. Half the people I work with are H-1B. The program takes jobs away from Americans and should be illegal. I want to work with people from my town, not people from halfway across the world.
> I want to work with people from my town Nobody forces you to work with people from across the world, quit your job and find one that only hires people from your town
I think a better solution is to end H-1B. Nobody is forcing people to come here.
I mean, no kidding. Half the people I work with are H-1B. The program takes jobs away from Americans and should be illegal. I want to work with people from my town, not people from halfway across the world.
Are you asserting that there is enough American talent to satisfy the job market and that they are being unjustly suppressed? It’s an interesting idea. Do you have any reading relevant to the topic that supports this assertion?
Most of these cuts haven’t targeted tech talent, so this isn’t really contradictory in any way.
What headlines have you been reading that make you think the many thousands of workers cut were all not tech talent?
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> H1B at big tech is modern slavery that's putting it too far - they are free to leave or quit as they wish. Unlike the true modern slavery of which is migrant workers (like described here https://www.antislavery.org/world-cup-2022-the-reality-for-m... ), where their passports are confiscated, etc. H1B is exploiting the rules for cheap labour. It does benefit the H1B holder - since they would otherwise not have signe…
If an H-1B worker does quit their job, or even if they get fired, they have a very tight deadline under the immigration laws to depart the country. This applies regardless of what financial obligations they may have as a renter or homeowner and regardless of the situation of the rest of their family.
And if after their job ends they rush out of the country to meet the immigration deadline, any lingering ties to the US will make it harder for them to convince CBP to let them re-enter on visitor status, so the departure may in some circumstances be either temporarily or permanently one-way as well as rushed.
The severity of this disruption forces many H-1B workers to meekly put up with a lot more abuse and mistreatment at work than must US citizens, LPRs, and those lucky few categories of nonimmigrants whose work authorizations are not tied to their employment. Agreed, it’s not slavery, but it’s not full freedom either.
A more humane approach would be what Canada does: holders of Canadian employer-specific work permits who quit or lose their job are legally allowed to remain in Canada until their current work permit expires, although not to work for a different Canadian employer without first receiving a new permit. They can rely on this predictability of legal status in the country when signing leases, planning their children’s education, and other matters. And it often gives them far more time than the tight US deadline if they want to find a new employer who agrees to sponsor a subsequent work permit for them.
Do H1B workers need to live in the US to work, or they can work remotely from their country?
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This comment might be interpreted as offensive on so many levels. :) One of them being the implication that, on average, nationals are bigger slackers than foreigners.
In fairness, the worst case implication is that nationals with a cushy salary are less motivated than poorly paid foreigners who need to maintain their job to maintain their visa and position in the immigration process. That doesn’t seem particularly offensive to me, a decently paid national.
We clearly need to reform our immigration system.
I’m an immigrant myself and know how the visa application process works. There are a few mechanisms in place to prevent H-1B holders to receive lower wages than their colleagues, first and foremost the PERM, which guarantees similar wages in the same occupation and area of employment.
If Google or anyone else are hiring H-1B visa holders directly, they have to pay them accordingly to their own standards.
Also, visa salaries have to be publicly available. It’s not like they could lie about it.
When people speak of visa holders as “cheap” labour, they probably think of IT consultants hired by Indian companies, which regularly are the worst offenders.