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Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by brycewray »

eviks wrote: post #6

So how do I find fonts that have 0s with a dot in the middle? > filters are now easier to reach and sectioned out meaningfully "Technology" is not a meaningful section, and in general having section taking more space than its content of just a single item doesn't help

Since you're allowed to add your own sample text, I always use something like this:

efficient, effluent eggs 3690 Il1 GQ To AV Va Yo

... which shows ligatures (if any), old-style numerals (if any), descenders, the zero in a code font, differentiation among similar-looking characters, and familiar kerning pairs (if any).

Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by eviks »

brycewray wrote: post #61
eviks wrote: post #6

So how do I find fonts that have 0s with a dot in the middle? > filters are now easier to reach and sectioned out meaningfully "Technology" is not a meaningful section, and in general having section taking more space than its content of just a single item doesn't help

Since you're allowed to add your own sample text, I always use something like this: efficient, effluent eggs 3690 Il1 GQ To AV Va Yo ... which shows ligatures (if any), old-style numerals (if any), descenders, the zero in a code font, differentiation among similar-looking characters, and familiar kerning pairs (if any).

That's a poor workaround since many good fonts have alternative styles for such things, and these wouldn't show up

Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by eviks »

eviks wrote: post #6

So how do I find fonts that have 0s with a dot in the middle? > filters are now easier to reach and sectioned out meaningfully "Technology" is not a meaningful section, and in general having section taking more space than its content of just a single item doesn't help

and just discovered another joke of a search from a search giant helping me "find what you’re looking for"

You can't find Source Code Pro with any of the 3 Decorative stroke flagged even though that's supposed to be an exhaustive list (serif, no serif, slab serif)

Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by jeroenhd »

chillbill wrote: post #30
joecool1029 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's doing lazy loading. On my faster mobile devices it's not too jarring. On the slower ones... yeah it's a jumpy mess. Would imagine it's really bad on slower connections. EDIT: To be clear I'm talking about the font page not the post announcing it.

I have a consistent 150 Mbps and it’s jumpy as hell, how fast does my connection have to be to scroll properly according to the Google standard?

The limiting factor is your browser's performance more than anything. Dynamically loading in a hundred fonts isn't something most browsers are optimised for. The jumping around is the text boxes resizing when a font loads.

The alternative would be preloaded all fonts which would simply crash slow devices and waste bandwidth.

Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by jacooper »

rpastuszak wrote: post #48

Tip: more privacy friendly Google alternatives are available and super easy to use: https://fontsource.org/ I switched most of my sites to use it and I’ve been quite happy so far. It just works. No need to leak data to Google. For weirder stuff (e.g. https://tidings.potato.horse ) I use sites like dafont.com and convert fonts using Font Squirrel.

There is also https://fonts.bunny.net

But its still not clear wether that satisfys the GDPR or not, better be safe and host the fonts on your CDN or locally.

Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by httpsterio »

jacooper wrote: post #68
rpastuszak wrote: post #48

Tip: more privacy friendly Google alternatives are available and super easy to use: https://fontsource.org/ I switched most of my sites to use it and I’ve been quite happy so far. It just works. No need to leak data to Google. For weirder stuff (e.g. https://tidings.potato.horse ) I use sites like dafont.com and convert fonts using Font Squirrel.

There is also https://fonts.bunny.net But its still not clear wether that satisfys the GDPR or not, better be safe and host the fonts on your CDN or locally.

Bunny is a reputable company and they're EU based. At the same time, they also promise zero loggin and that they don't pass any information to any third parties and that they're GDPR compliant.

They couldn't write it so boldly without risk of litigation unless that actually was the case, so I would consider it safe to use.

Re: Redesigned Google Fonts website

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Post by cjpearson »

onethought wrote: post #54
V__ wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi: Under GDPR you have to host these fonts yourself.

is that true? Using a font is not trafficking any of the users Pii data? Google might be breaching gdpr if they are doing some crazy tracking, but I don’t see how a consumer of their fonts could be breaching. I am probably missing something.

Using a Google font causes the client to send a request to Google servers. The Google server then receives the client's IP address. Occasionally a judge will consider that a GDPR violation. [0] Sometimes using a CDN will also be considered a GDPR violation under the same logic. [1]

But it seems like it just depends on which judge you get. There are thousands of sites in Europe that use Cloudflare, Google Fonts and Shopify and only a few that have been fined because of it.

[0]: https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/website_fine_google_f...

[1]: https://lsww-de.translate.goog/shopify-illegal/?_x_tr_sl=de&...

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