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Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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Long COVID/PASC is absolutely a ticking time bomb for the return to office crowd. A previous story on here discussed the "echo chamber of CEO feelings" around the decision to force RTO (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37408985), prominently missing from that article was any grappling with the tradeoff for RTO during substantial community covid spread (disabling anywhere from 16-30% of your employees sharing aerosols.)

Good luck out there, don't forget to mask up!

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Long COVID/PASC is absolutely a ticking time bomb for the return to office crowd. A previous story on here discussed the "echo chamber of CEO feelings" around the decision to force RTO ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37408985 ), prominently missing from that article was any grappling with the tradeoff for RTO during substantial community covid spread (disabling anywhere from 16-30% of your employees sharing ae…

Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc.

The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway.

Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves.

I've thrown away my stockpile of masks too, I had a lot of them because I was always looking for some that met the minimum requirements but we're nevertheless easy to breathe and soft to wear. That was hard to find.

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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post #3

Long COVID/PASC is absolutely a ticking time bomb for the return to office crowd. A previous story on here discussed the "echo chamber of CEO feelings" around the decision to force RTO ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37408985 ), prominently missing from that article was any grappling with the tradeoff for RTO during substantial community covid spread (disabling anywhere from 16-30% of your employees sharing ae…

Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc. The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway. Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves. I've thrown away…

> Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID.

You will lose way more DALYs catching COVID (especially multiple times) than you will wearing a mask. We are already seeing the emerging auto-immune effects at a population level as well (rising fungal infections, etc) :\

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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post #3

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Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc. The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway. Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves. I've thrown away…

> Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. You will lose way more DALYs catching COVID (especially multiple times) than you will wearing a mask. We are already seeing the emerging auto-immune effects at a population level as well (rising fungal infections, etc) :\

Yet most people have caught Covid anyway.

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc. The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway. Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves. I've thrown away…

> Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. You will lose way more DALYs catching COVID (especially multiple times) than you will wearing a mask. We are already seeing the emerging auto-immune effects at a population level as well (rising fungal infections, etc) :\

But that's exactly my point. I don't care about the number of life years. I care about the ones I have being fun and interesting.

Shying away behind a mask and avoiding to busy night clubs etc defeats that purpose. That I will die a few years early when I'm old doesn't really bother me because that time will be less valuable anyway.

One way or another I will catch diseases and I could die at any time. Might as well make the journey interesting and without too much worries.

If I cared so much I wouldn't be obese either :)

But like I said this is a tradeoff for each of us to make, I'm surprised though that the US is still like this, here the masks are really over and done with and everyone is trying to forget those horrible years as much as possible.

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. You will lose way more DALYs catching COVID (especially multiple times) than you will wearing a mask. We are already seeing the emerging auto-immune effects at a population level as well (rising fungal infections, etc) :\

But that's exactly my point. I don't care about the number of life years. I care about the ones I have being fun and interesting. Shying away behind a mask and avoiding to busy night clubs etc defeats that purpose. That I will die a few years early when I'm old doesn't really bother me because that time will be less valuable anyway. One way or another I will catch diseases and I could die at any time. Might as well m…

I could care less if people wear masks to protect themselves, but I do wish that people who are in public spaces coughing extremely aggressively and loudly, would think about the others around them and wear a mask. It comes across as extremely inconsiderate to me now whenever I witness this.

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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post #3

Long COVID/PASC is absolutely a ticking time bomb for the return to office crowd. A previous story on here discussed the "echo chamber of CEO feelings" around the decision to force RTO ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37408985 ), prominently missing from that article was any grappling with the tradeoff for RTO during substantial community covid spread (disabling anywhere from 16-30% of your employees sharing ae…

Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc. The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway. Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves. I've thrown away…

It seems like everyone thinks that wearing masks is only to protect themselves from other people, and completely forgot (or never learned in the first place) that it's actually arguably even more important to wear a mask to protect others from your own cold, whether it's COVID or not.

This is something I really love about Japan and Korea. People are very considerate about not spreading their germs around in public places, by wearing a mask when they're sick.

It really feels like the rest of the world missed that part of the memo, even though we all wore masks for an entire pandemic. It actually boggles my mind.

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc. The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway. Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves. I've thrown away…

> Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. You will lose way more DALYs catching COVID (especially multiple times) than you will wearing a mask. We are already seeing the emerging auto-immune effects at a population level as well (rising fungal infections, etc) :\

If catching covid multiple times breaks the human immune system, then humanity is screwed. Anyone who lives a non hermitic existence is inevitably getting it multiple times.

I know you think masks are no big deal, and they're not if used temporarily, but long term they're a huge deal for huge swaths of people. I'm an introvert and I'd be delighted to never socialize in person ever again, but I understand most aren't built that way.

Re: Long Covid Symptoms Can Emerge Months After Infection

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post #3

Long COVID/PASC is absolutely a ticking time bomb for the return to office crowd. A previous story on here discussed the "echo chamber of CEO feelings" around the decision to force RTO ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37408985 ), prominently missing from that article was any grappling with the tradeoff for RTO during substantial community covid spread (disabling anywhere from 16-30% of your employees sharing ae…

Do people in the US still wear masks? Here in Spain it's 1 in 200 now, in public transport, offices etc. The strange things is those people tend to wear them even outdoors where the risk of infection was always low anyway. Personally I think the quality of life loss of wearing masks is heavier than that of getting COVID. So I don't either. But every person can make that determination for themselves. I've thrown away…

No mask wearing isnt really a thing in the US anymore. Last year was different. In big cities today, you mostly only see masks on elderly, people who are sick, or other special situations. There is a tiny percentage of healthy, low risk neurotic people who wear them all the time, but they're rare.
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