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McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

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Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

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Tangential: I went through a McDonald's drive thru yesterday and there was a robotic machine filling up our drink orders. I'm not sure how much human intervention it required. A human had to place the lids on the filled cups. I didn't see if it had a hopper to drop empty cups into the filling area, or if humans had to do that part.

my local one's robot loads it's own hopper

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

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Another nail in the coffin of McDonalds. Their price increases put their food on par with other better quality burger joints. McDonald's was great because it was cheap. Now at this price point I'll just go to somewhere else.

This is just an attempt to reduce the free refill brigade. Penny pinching, but pinching nonetheless. You will be less inclined to go up and get a refill because you'll have to wait in line.

They also purposefully overfill their beverage cups with ice so you get less soda. I'll just tell them no ice out of spite.

The final straw (pun intended) was when they reduced the sizes of their fries. A medium fry is now a small. Not even worth it anymore.

Sorry for the passion here, but I used to love McDs on the road. I'll seek my road junk food elsewhere.

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

#53

This article made me grieve the loss of my precious chicken selects. Damn those were good. And my angus third-pounder with red onions.

https://www.tiktok.com/@chefmikeharacz/video/726618587648763... has a guy talking about how McDonalds choose the latest chicken sandwich. It doesn't bode well that they just ignore data in their decisions.

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speed of filling isn't related to liquid velocity, but velocity x stream size. Bubbling isn't related to change in volume, but liquid velocity (and turbulence). You could double the width of the stream and fill it twice as fast with no more bubbles. You can bet that if ice cubes cost 4x the soda that they would make difference decisions on the drink machine.

Isn't the bubbling/foaming due to the CO2 coming out of soda water?

Yes, but the rate is related to turbulence which generally scales with velocity. Try to fill a drink glass with high pressure soda coming through a straw would just make a fountain of foam. Poor it slowly and there will be minimal foam. To speed filling without increasing velocity widen the stream.

Somewhat related, some measure the quality of a tea kettle by the height you can pour a laminar flow into a tea cup.

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is mostly due to understaffed (cough underpaid staff at) locations needing to help in the kitchen so often that having a cashier only increases frustration for customers that are waiting in line and don’t see it moving. Easier to place a sign saying “order at kiosk” to make sure the kitchen has enough staff to keep up.

I haven't experienced it at a McDonald's, but twice in the last 2 years I've attempted to walk into big chain fast food restaurants during normal business hours only to find the doors locked, even though I can see workers inside and the drive-through window is open. I suspected this is because they're understaffed and/or swamped with orders and can't be bothered to also open the dining area. One such time was at a Ta…

A Taco Bell and a McDonald's in my vicinity have seemed to have closed their dining rooms permanently.

I think another reason for this is that it is also the easiest solution for handling the homelessness crisis. Requiring all orders go through the drive through by someone in a car is one way to avoid dealing with unhoused people looking for shelter/restrooms/water for a few hours and not spending money that they don't have.

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

#56
McDonald's have become nasty, locally. anti diners. managers have an anti-customer mindset, like we're a big bother to impose ourselves on them. us, the source of the revenue which flows into their paychecks. McDs wasnt like this even 10 years ago. they broke

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

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McDonald's have become nasty, locally. anti diners. managers have an anti-customer mindset, like we're a big bother to impose ourselves on them. us, the source of the revenue which flows into their paychecks. McDs wasnt like this even 10 years ago. they broke

They broke what?

Re: McDonald's to retire self-service soda fountains by 2032

#60

Funny how self serve soda machines have really taken off in the last 5 years or so in most of the newer franchise operations. I can't help but think they (McDs) are struggling to hire people to keep those stations orderly and frankly the last few times I went into a mcds those stations are all disgusting and disordered. I would add that all the mcds I've been in recently are actively hostile to the dine in experience…

The dirtiness of fast-food restaurants is something that shocks me every time I go to the US. Things like sticky, rubbish-strewn floors even behind the counter that, as a food-preparation area, especially ought to be kept clean. The staff themselves are often slovenly and morbidly obese. McDonalds on other continents are noticeably cleaner, and considering that McDonalds has standardized the entire process and techno…

Bar and restaurant tables are generally sticky and disgusting because of a lack of hygienic cleaning. Using the same dirty, wet cloth with only water is not the same as using soap.
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