The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda • Hacker News Board

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

#181

Post by excessdeaths423 » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 8:47 PM UTC

appplication wrote: post #148

barbacoa wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/pfizers-clinical-trial-had-... One would expect more deaths in the placebo group from all the people who died of covid. Which makes the data even more striking.

Well I poked around, I’m not sure exactly what you’re seeing. One would expect more covid deaths in the placebo, and that is the case. Most of the deaths in both groups are indeed unrelated to Covid at all. You can see exact cause of death for all participants here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/07/28/202... I suspect the number your focusing on is the 4 cardiac arrest deaths. At a glance it seem…

[flagged]

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

#182

Post by wkat4242 » Sat, Sep 09, 2023, 5:52 AM UTC

free_glamorgan wrote: post #180

ceejayoz wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That may not be as far-fetched as it sounds. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-60981318 > More than 4.7 million people in India - nearly 10 times higher than official records suggest - are thought to have died because of Covid-19, according to a new World Health Organization (WHO) report. > Three large peer-reviewed studies had found that India's deaths from the pandemic by September 2021 were "six to seven t…

I'm aware of that, which is why I made the point that it would only bring India's Covid death rate to around the same as the US and other Western countries. It is also of no help to the discussion around my original point, which is the idea that a very large number of people don't personally know anyone who died unexpectedly of Covid.

India was very badly affected in the cities, much more so than western Europe. That their overall rate is low is also because of the huge rural areas.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

#183

Post by Julesman » Sat, Sep 09, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

mcpackieh wrote: post #111

cmmeur01 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read CIA 1035 960? https://archive.org/details/CIADOC1035960/mode/1up

I have now. This document shows that the CIA was trying to counter conspiracy theories about JFK's assassination (of course they were), but it doesn't seem to provide evidence for the CIA deliberately shifting the meaning of 'conspiracy theory'. This part got an audible "Heh" out of me though: "Note that Robert Kennedy, Attorney General at the time and John F. Kennedy's brother, would be the last man to overlook or c…

"It doesn't seem to provide evidence for the CIA deliberately shifting the meaning of 'conspiracy theory'."

No one (the public) had heard that term before the CIA got US media writing propaganda pieces to disparage inquiry into the assassination. It wasn't about the theories. It was about defining a group of theorists and creating ways to dismiss them. That continues to this day in yearly exercises of establishing mainstream credibility where young "journalists" help us all understand the broken psychology of people who want the world to be scary.

Honestly, if you have ever tried hard to advance a line of thought that's dangerious to the establishment you'd maybe be personally familiar, as I am, with the smell of counter-intelligence. But I can't cite a web link that would make that credible. And you've already learned to discredit anyone calling themselve a truther.

It worked. I'm saying it worked because it works on me. No amount of facts or scope or wisdom makes mainstream friends of mine more open to reality. Reality is scary. Disagreeing with the 'news' is scary. But US industry gatekeeps history and I refuse to be naive.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

#184

Post by mushbino » Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:37 PM UTC

doubleg72 wrote: post #141

JPws_Prntr_Fngr wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahead on virtually any measure of material or social success, and they further consolidate their advantages by functioning multi-generationally, which means that no, they don't die quite like everybody else. See for example: the Bush dynasty vs the typical "successful" American family. Do you know anyone benefiting from their great-grandfather's Nazi money, plus their grandfather's CIA/oil cartel black ops + presiden…

Thanks for reminding me to grab the tinfoil hat!

It's all provable beyond doubt if you'd like to see.