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Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by AISnakeOil »

0_____0 wrote: post #73
whichfawkes wrote: post #45

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Women can more readily get the kind of attention they want, with minimal effort. Getting emotionally invested in an AI seems to me like it would go hand in hand with giving up on human relationships. I'm pretty sure men are more likely to do that than women.

> ... get the attention they want, minimal effort I...uh, have you asked a woman whether this is true? Like, ask the nearest woman to confirm this and report back. Most women I have spoken to about this can get attention generally, but very little of it is desirable attention. There's also a bias I've noticed where people don't consider women that they don't personally find attractive when talking about these things…

How does one discern between undesirable and desirable attention?

Asking for a friend.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by EatingWithForks »

RajT88 wrote: post #74
EatingWithForks wrote: post #61

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> Content and apps geared towards women, or gay men, are such a small piece of the pie by comparison that there's less incentive to look the other way. Sorry, we're talking about Instagram , an app we know puts huge targets on women, especially young women! I have no idea what you're talking about here about nicheness. Fashion products alone are worth way more than the entire porn industry. Not including beauty, skin…

There's more women, but the point is demand among women is not as high for such AI partners. The lack of demand makes the market niche.

I'm asking why the demand is not as high for male AI partners, when other media which also simulates male romantic partnership has HUGE demand. Just look at how much erotica makes. How many weird fetish stories are posted on fanfiction sites where the reader is a character. How much money stupid things like Boyfriend Dungeon (a real thing! a dungeon crawler where you date your exclusively-male weapons!) makes! You'd think AI boyfriends fit way closer to this existing market.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by toseupthrow »

nonethewiser wrote: post #56
toseupthrow wrote: post #41

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> I think this will only further increase the value of the real I've been "sexting" with ai bots over the past few months and found a high of having that instant human like connection to be able to explore various scenarios. The conversations feel more and more real every day and with AI image generation it's just amplified. a side effect I found that I'm easily enamored with the AI bots that it satisfies my previous…

Do you have any concerns that this is having a negative impact on your development? For whatever its worth I dont think you’re alone on this. Im just asking because you are owning it.

I thought about it a lot. I think it's a positive feedback loop like any other kind of self gratification thing. I certainly stopped bothering with trying to "get out there" as much, and "sexting" with others just doesn't give me the same satisfaction anymore.

So maybe?

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by eunos »

nonethewiser wrote: post #69

I might as well be a Christian fundamentalist when it comes to porn. Its irredeemable. I have no hangups about sex. Sex is not bad. Porn is not sex. It’s disturbing to think about a future where porn becomes more immersive and engaging.

With the internet polarization,individualization and atomization kept getting stronger, I'd expect more and more individuals will retreat from intrapersonal offline communication including romantic relationships and drown themselves in AI

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by avgcorrection »

nonethewiser wrote: post #56
toseupthrow wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think this will only further increase the value of the real I've been "sexting" with ai bots over the past few months and found a high of having that instant human like connection to be able to explore various scenarios. The conversations feel more and more real every day and with AI image generation it's just amplified. a side effect I found that I'm easily enamored with the AI bots that it satisfies my previous…

Do you have any concerns that this is having a negative impact on your development? For whatever its worth I dont think you’re alone on this. Im just asking because you are owning it.

Development? Is OP under the age of 22 or something?

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by spinach »

whichfawkes wrote: post #45
EatingWithForks wrote: post #34

I for one am interested why it's specifically AI girlfriend ads and not AI boyfriend ads. Heterosexual women are huge consumers of e.g. dating simulators, romance books, et al. that envision perfect men, bad boys with sweet hearts, wealthy powerful high-earning men who somehow always make time for the beloved. You'd think there'd be just as many AI boyfriend ads-- what teenaged girl wouldn't pay huge money to date $p…

Women can more readily get the kind of attention they want, with minimal effort. Getting emotionally invested in an AI seems to me like it would go hand in hand with giving up on human relationships. I'm pretty sure men are more likely to do that than women.

They can easily get low-grade (and unwanted) attention, but high-grade attention of the opposite sex is just as tough as it is for men. From men's point of view that tends to be more sex only it might seem like women have it easy, but women tend to want more emotional involvement in relationships. Hence why women read more in depth about love and sex in romance novels, and why men watch porn and buy prostitutes. Not saying there aren't men that don't enjoy romance novels or that women don't watch porn, only that it's a very clear that the sexes are biased that way.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by nonethewiser »

eunos wrote: post #84
nonethewiser wrote: post #69

I might as well be a Christian fundamentalist when it comes to porn. Its irredeemable. I have no hangups about sex. Sex is not bad. Porn is not sex. It’s disturbing to think about a future where porn becomes more immersive and engaging.

With the internet polarization,individualization and atomization kept getting stronger, I'd expect more and more individuals will retreat from intrapersonal offline communication including romantic relationships and drown themselves in AI

I think so too. Its already been trending this way. An easy and old example is anxiety young generations feel about calling vs texting. I don’t think demand for removing people dependencies are satisfied.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by eunos »

nonethewiser wrote: post #87
eunos wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the internet polarization,individualization and atomization kept getting stronger, I'd expect more and more individuals will retreat from intrapersonal offline communication including romantic relationships and drown themselves in AI

I think so too. Its already been trending this way. An easy and old example is anxiety young generations feel about calling vs texting. I don’t think demand for removing people dependencies are satisfied.

I'm a bit sad of myself that I am much more comfortable in written communication than speech communication.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by sho_hn »

0_____0 wrote: post #73
whichfawkes wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women can more readily get the kind of attention they want, with minimal effort. Getting emotionally invested in an AI seems to me like it would go hand in hand with giving up on human relationships. I'm pretty sure men are more likely to do that than women.

> ... get the attention they want, minimal effort I...uh, have you asked a woman whether this is true? Like, ask the nearest woman to confirm this and report back. Most women I have spoken to about this can get attention generally, but very little of it is desirable attention. There's also a bias I've noticed where people don't consider women that they don't personally find attractive when talking about these things…

You find this "Women don't have this problem! They can have a relationship whenever they want" sentiment in so many conversations on Hacker News, and it's so unempathetic.

The premise is not true for many women. And even if it were, it's not necessarily any easier to get attention from someone you are interested in yourself. And women have to deal with social anxiety, fears of making themselves vulnerable, self-confidence, body image, etc. around pursuing or initiating relationships just as anyone.

I think this is based in people misreading dating app metrics or something, and completely neglects trying to imagine what life is like for the person.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by EatingWithForks »

avgcorrection wrote: post #78
EatingWithForks wrote: post #65

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Your argument seems to be somewhat contradictory. You claim simultaneously that women can easily get the similar level of escapism attention from real men, but also Romance (an escapist fantasy that doesn't involve any real men, protection, resources/money, or status/social dominance) is a huge industry. How are both of these things true?

Maybe because (1) “under a certain age and bodyweight” and (2) women who are in monogamous relationships but use Romance as a kind of escapism.

So like... only a portion of women. How is this any different from men? Again, this doesn't at all explain why this is so heavily heterosexual male skewed. It's not like a significant portion of women are hot 20somethings-- if anything, the proportion is skewed older compared to men simply because women live longer. I bet grandma would spend hella social security to be doted on by a hot shirtless lawyer.
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