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Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by unjinxable »

Smudge wrote: post #50
davej wrote: post #47

I wonder how many people gave kudos to the post by mistake? I know I did and there's no way to remove the kudos you gave afterwards. User actions should be a click not a hover.

He's already received complaints and sort of laughed them away: http://dcurt.is/unkudo Personally I think it's bad UX, but what do I know; I'm not Dustin Curtis.

It's easy to call it a meaningless interaction, but it's far from meaningless. He's explicitly breaking an implicit trust between himself and the reader. He's saying "Hey reader, I'm watching you."

If you don't think this is a big deal, I invite you to think about a natural extension of this concept: A comment form that sends its entire contents to the server on every keypress.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by nchlswu »

A couple of general things.

(1) Svbtle is actually a decent name (I sort of thing the 'v' is tired, but that's just a product of things I'm following doing that) Unfortunately, it's probably not appropriate for a tech audience

(2) I'm very surprised at the significant negative reaction to his 'curation' of his blogging network. I understand the feelings of condescension, but is it really that big of a deal? Many things are invite only, vetted by one person. I'm personally bothered by /other/ elitist attitudes prevalent in the industry. This is pretty consistent and he never said this was never going to be public...

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by obilgic »

I think this is a really good example of "being famous does not mean that you are good at everything". Do not forget why you are famous. If you are really famous actor and body builder, you might be governor If you try really hard, but do not run for presidency.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by endlessvoid94 »

alanh wrote: post #78
endlessvoid94 wrote: post #29

Yesterday I made a quip about how 3 of the 5 members were on the frontpage of HN arguing, and how I didn't want an invite. Insert foot in mouth. I really like the idea of the two columns. I'd totally use this.

To indulge your tangent: They were indeed “arguing” in some definition of the word, but I think they kind of agreed a lot, and together painted a coherent picture I could agree with, and was glad to have read.

What I actually meant was that the argument was extremely narrow to the point of pedantry.

Is Rails good for an API?

It's a tool, and it has different merits depending on the situation. That's the answer to the question, and it's the answer to any question like it.

I said I didn't want an invite because I didn't want to be associated with the three of them arguing over so fine a point, and getting so much exposure for it.

It all seemed very weird to me. That was my real point.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by ajslater »

patrickaljord wrote: post #27
devinfoley wrote: post #20

"This is the blogging platform for creative, intelligent, and witty people. Membership by invitation only." Am I the only person that laughed out loud at this?

I didn't laugh but I found that incredibly arrogant and pathetic.

its funny, patrick. grow a sense of humor.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by prawn »

dcurtis wrote: post #40
patrickaljord wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't laugh but I found that incredibly arrogant and pathetic.

Pathetic? It perfectly accomplishes my goal: you'll remember it. (Edit: Sigh. Now I remember why I have a rule of not commenting on Hacker News anymore.)

I suspect you'll get more downvotes for mentioning your "rule" than the original comment.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by wmeredith »

md224 wrote: post #64
Smudge wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's already received complaints and sort of laughed them away: http://dcurt.is/unkudo Personally I think it's bad UX, but what do I know; I'm not Dustin Curtis.

It's definitely bad UX. Curtis tries to brush away criticism with his claim that the "kudos" number is "an otherwise meaningless number," but this argument is fatally flawed. Plenty of things that human beings use for social signaling are, when removed from context, technically "meaningless", but within context they can hold plenty of meaning. In the case of Curtis's website, the "Kudos" counter is implied to display…

It's a pretty obvious dark pattern.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Post by blvr »

MartinCron wrote: post #95
Katelyn wrote: post #93

1. Kudos Button: Why the controversy? I've always viewed it as a meaningless counter that's fun to hover over. I never took the counts seriously. Sometimes I visit your site just to send arbitrary kudos. What's most concerning about the buttons is the number of readers that feel "victimized," "deceived" or "tricked" from, well...a css element. 2. Svbtle: There are few names I've come across in my career that are as p…

2. Svbtle: There are few names I've come across in my career that are as painful as this one to read, spell or pronounce. Absolutely. I thought that "kiln" was a horrible product name (it still is) but we've set the bar lower with this.

So am I the only one who just reads it as 'subtle'?
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